Swiso Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Hello, One question... I see that the Rotary wheel (RZ axis), in Simapp pro program, can be setup in three different ways (two different axis actions and only buttons) Which one would you recommend for controlling F-15E (and F/A-18) radar antenna elevation ? I see that in these jets that command work differently than the F-16. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishigami Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 (edited) Someone more knowledgeable may correct me: The rotary in the real jet is spring loaded self centering. It changes the rate in which the elevation of the radar antenna changes and is not attached to a specific antenna angle. Once released it returns to the center which is 0 rate and stops the antenna. Since the rotary on the WW throttle handles is not self centering it doesn't translate 1:1 how the real jet operates. Someone may correct me but afaik the antenna elevation in the F-15E by Razbam is also not changed by changing the rate but instead the rotary position is attached to spefici antenna angle. If I am right than this done because we do not usually have self centering rotary knobs on PC and it makes it easier for simmers to control the antenna elevation with the usually available hardware which is either buttons or an axis. The most accurate way to replicate how the antenna is controlled would then be the pure axis mode. Now you could use the combined mode but there is no point to the switches on the axis. The F-15E has no function attached to the end or center of the antenna elevation rotary and the switch mode is IMO mostly just a work around for other sims who would not support an axis for this function. But like I said I could be wrong... Edited December 22, 2023 by Ishigami 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiso Posted December 23, 2023 Author Share Posted December 23, 2023 Thank you. I will have a look at your suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islari Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Hello, Unfortunately the Winwing F-15ex is not centering, but the real one is. Either the real or razbams one are proportional rotary. It's a shame, but I'm using the self centering wheel at the left of the TDC on my F-15ex Winwing for radar elevation instead of the real input 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiso Posted December 25, 2023 Author Share Posted December 25, 2023 14 hours ago, Islari said: Hello, Unfortunately the Winwing F-15ex is not centering, but the real one is. Either the real or razbams one are proportional rotary. It's a shame, but I'm using the self centering wheel at the left of the TDC on my F-15ex Winwing for radar elevation instead of the real input Hello, Thanks for the input. I might try this to see how comfortable it could be. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom711 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 vor 14 Stunden schrieb Islari: Hello, Unfortunately the Winwing F-15ex is not centering, but the real one is. Either the real or razbams one are proportional rotary. It's a shame, but I'm using the self centering wheel at the left of the TDC on my F-15ex Winwing for radar elevation instead of the real input Strange that they modeled that wrong when they had done it correctly for the Hornet already. vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 On 12/25/2023 at 10:08 AM, Phantom711 said: Strange that they modeled that wrong when they had done it correctly for the Hornet already. and they sell it as F15e, I hate the radar elev wheel as it stands, but their are few guys fixing that over on the discord by adding a centering spring 1 I9-9900k, 32MB, RTX2070S, 2560x1440 165hz monitor, track IR, Grass Monkey wireless Puck, Virpil T50-CM3, Winwing Superlibra stick with Hornet and Viper grip, Winwing Orion2 with Hornet, and F15E grip, Winwing PTO, home made 2060 mounts, Virpill ACE interceptor pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiso Posted December 28, 2023 Author Share Posted December 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Jeb said: and they sell it as F15e, I hate the radar elev wheel as it stands, but their are few guys fixing that over on the discord by adding a centering spring Could you post a link to that discord discussion where they add a centering spring ? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirusAM Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 Could you post a link to that discord discussion where they add a centering spring ? Thanks!I would like to have the link as well... thanks R7-5800X3D 64GB RTX-4090 LG-38GN950 Valve Index VPForce Rhino FFB, Virpil F-14 (VFX) Grip, Virpil Alpha Grip, Virpil CM3 Throttle + Control Panel 2, Winwing Orion (Skywalker) Pedals, Razer Tartarus V2 SpeedMaster Flight Seat, JetSeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 https://discord.com/channels/438688364359581707/1167768837610016769 HOTAS /HOSAS/SIMPIT discord. then 3D-print projects / winwing antenna elevation mod 1 I9-9900k, 32MB, RTX2070S, 2560x1440 165hz monitor, track IR, Grass Monkey wireless Puck, Virpil T50-CM3, Winwing Superlibra stick with Hornet and Viper grip, Winwing Orion2 with Hornet, and F15E grip, Winwing PTO, home made 2060 mounts, Virpill ACE interceptor pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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