Afterburner Detent "tension"

[zero2005]

Just got my Orion 2 Stick/Throttle (F-16EX stick, F-15EX throttle) with the finger lifts.
My only real annoyance right now on initial impression is the afterburner detent is not very positive, I've tried the different positions and it just seems like I can't bump against it and know exactly where mil power is, which is frustrating. 

Is there an aftermarket detent that is more "positive" in nature? or is there a way to increase the tension on the finger lift mechanism to have a more positive mil-power stop? I still want push through, but its like the friction to push through, especially on the right grip, is basically nil. 

I tried even putting a few pieces of scotch tape on it and it kind of helped until it started to wear down. 
 

[Nightdare]

Just brainfarting here

You could fill it with epoxy and then filing a slot, so it has a more abrupt slope?

[Joch1955]

just a question but are you sure it is correctly installed? On my setup, it physically stops at the detent and I have to apply some extra force to get over the hump. It makes very easy to "feel" where Mil power is. Admittedly it requires a light touch and with a lot of brute force, you can sail right over it.

[Hiob]

5 hours ago, zero2005 said:

Just got my Orion 2 Stick/Throttle (F-16EX stick, F-15EX throttle) with the finger lifts.
My only real annoyance right now on initial impression is the afterburner detent is not very positive, I've tried the different positions and it just seems like I can't bump against it and know exactly where mil power is, which is frustrating. 

Is there an aftermarket detent that is more "positive" in nature? or is there a way to increase the tension on the finger lift mechanism to have a more positive mil-power stop? I still want push through, but its like the friction to push through, especially on the right grip, is basically nil. 

I tried even putting a few pieces of scotch tape on it and it kind of helped until it started to wear down. 
 

Just shooting in the sky here, but when the finger-lift is spring loaded (I don't know this throttle), you could just add another spring. (or find a harder one).

[Nightdare]

@Hiob

 

I don't think it'd be a good idea to put more stress on the fingerlifts with stronger springs

[Keith Briscoe]

I'm surprised to hear this.... mine is very positive.. Throttle clearly stops at Mil and requires real push.  In fact, I can't really even push over WITHOUT lifting the fingerlifts (at least, I don't want to try for fear of breaking the fingerlift mechanism).

 

[Hiob]

1 hour ago, Nightdare said:

@Hiob

 

I don't think it'd be a good idea to put more stress on the fingerlifts with stronger springs

Why? Are they so brittle?

[Nightdare]

@Job

 

There are a few cases known where the anchorplate of the grip has cracked

as the fingerlifts themselves are made of the same plastic, I don't know if upping the required power to operate them wil be beneficial

[zero2005]

Yea it feels like the right throttle is just arbitrary when it hits the stop. always feels like I'm a few % off. The left seems fine. I've tried disassembling it and reassembling it a few times, tried tape on the detent. I don't like the shape of the detent to be honest, if someone were to design it to be more positive, like a "wing" shape like the TM Warthog detent I think that would give it more of a positive stop. Possible the spring isn't as strong as the left spring, but just looking at it, it seems like a HUGE pita to take apart to change that tiny ass spring. 
Overall I'm not impressed by this one feature so far, everything else is amazing, but the AB detent is kind of something that should have been nailed down in the early design phase. 

I'm going to try putting some Nyogel on it to see if that can help, but I think I might have to just redesign a new detent that looks more like the leading edge of a wing instead of this flat angle they have.

[Keith Briscoe]

How about some pics of your throttle from different angles?  Just sounds very different than mine.

Edited January 9, 2024 by Keith Briscoe

[zero2005]

I took a bit of 1000 grit sandpaper I had lying around and gave it a bit of a buff and the roughness seems to have given it a bit more friction, then I applied a drop of lucas gun oil I had laying around and it seems to have got it to the point I find it acceptable. its like the angle is just so damn flat and the plastic is extremely smooth. 
to give some perspective of how easy it was to push through the detent (assuming I could even feel the initial contact point) was less than the pressure it takes for me to press the air brake button forward.

If I ever get around to it I still want to 3d print a new design.

[Majkus]

I found the solution

just clean the detent with some wet towel and it should work

edit: dont touch it with your fingers

Edited April 14, 2024 by Majkus