Thorluis2 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 The gbu-48 is based off the gbu-16 which requires the laser code to be set before takeoff by ground personnel, but the gbu-48 has a direct data connection to the aircraft, so would it be possible to change the code while connected to the aircraft? I am unsure as the connection may be only to the gps system, or it may also interface to the laser seeker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconeer Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 No, the laser code still needs to be manually set on the bomb. The data connection is for GPS and fuse settings only Planes: Choppers: Maps: Flaming Cliffs 3 Black Shark 2 Syria A-10C Tank killer 2 Black Shark 3 Persian Gulf F/A18C Hornet AH-64 Apache Mariana's F-16C Viper F-15E Strike Eagle Mirage 2000C AJS-37 Viggen JF-17 Thunder F-14 Tomcat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorluis2 Posted February 12 Author Share Posted February 12 Do you have any documentation of this? I just want to have it just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorluis2 Posted February 13 Author Share Posted February 13 14 hours ago, Falconeer said: No, the laser code still needs to be manually set on the bomb. The data connection is for GPS and fuse settings only I dont believe this is the case. The gbu 48 lacks the space for the laser prf settings, it uses a updated computer control group (mau 169 k/b) and has a direct data connection to the aircraft Gbu 16 Laser prf door Gbu 48 lacks this door Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Falconeer Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) Well, you just proved yourself wrong. The middle picture shows the location to set PRF codes. It's with the 4 circles (1 grey, 3 black) just in front of the fins. They are not always behind a door. The bottom picture shows the bomb from the wrong side, as they are on the opposite side Edited February 13 by Falconeer Planes: Choppers: Maps: Flaming Cliffs 3 Black Shark 2 Syria A-10C Tank killer 2 Black Shark 3 Persian Gulf F/A18C Hornet AH-64 Apache Mariana's F-16C Viper F-15E Strike Eagle Mirage 2000C AJS-37 Viggen JF-17 Thunder F-14 Tomcat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBorner Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 null That looks very much like the Lasercode Config you`d do on the strike eagle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconeer Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, BigBorner said: null That looks very much like the Lasercode Config you`d do on the strike eagle. Indeed, thx for adding the photo, couldn't do that from my phone Planes: Choppers: Maps: Flaming Cliffs 3 Black Shark 2 Syria A-10C Tank killer 2 Black Shark 3 Persian Gulf F/A18C Hornet AH-64 Apache Mariana's F-16C Viper F-15E Strike Eagle Mirage 2000C AJS-37 Viggen JF-17 Thunder F-14 Tomcat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorluis2 Posted February 13 Author Share Posted February 13 Didnt bitice, looks like ground crew control it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorluis2 Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 (edited) It seems that the gbu 48 might use a similar system as the gbu 24, where the laser code can be defined by the pilot in the aircraft if they have a data connection or can use ground defined laser code if they lack a data connection. So the gbu 48 should be able to have its laser code changed in flight, as well as be able to change gps targets midflight. http://www.midkiff.cz/obj/firma_produkt_priloha_1_soubor.pdf http://proceedings.ndia.org/5560/thursday/session_iv-a/pinel.pdf https://www.defenceprocurementinternational.com/Content/Profiles/junghans-defence/bombfuze-fbm21-datasheet.pdf https://raytheon.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=519 Edited February 17 by Thorluis2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconeer Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 No, the GBU24 is also set on the ground. GPS can be changed midflight. PRF not Planes: Choppers: Maps: Flaming Cliffs 3 Black Shark 2 Syria A-10C Tank killer 2 Black Shark 3 Persian Gulf F/A18C Hornet AH-64 Apache Mariana's F-16C Viper F-15E Strike Eagle Mirage 2000C AJS-37 Viggen JF-17 Thunder F-14 Tomcat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorluis2 Posted February 18 Author Share Posted February 18 18 hours ago, Falconeer said: No, the GBU24 is also set on the ground. GPS can be changed midflight. PRF not Yes, the prf can be changed midflight, as shown in the JFIRE text https://www.scribd.com/document/666326386/Tab-3-Jfire-2022-World-wide-Review-Final-Draft "GBU-16:Laser-guided, free-fall weapon with a 1,000lbMk-83 or BLU-1560109 bomb body. Laser codes are only preflight selectable." "(4) GBU-48 Enhanced Paveway II:Dual-mode laser/GPS-aided INSfree-1562fall weapon using the 1,000lbMk-83 bomb body." The fact that they specify that the gbu 16 cannot change its laser code while they never mention any such limitation on the gbu 48 leads on to recognize that the gbu 48 is capable of changing the laser code midflight, especially since this document will likely be used by jatac for the laser designation of targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconeer Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 5 minutes ago, Thorluis2 said: Yes, the prf can be changed midflight, as shown in the JFIRE text https://www.scribd.com/document/666326386/Tab-3-Jfire-2022-World-wide-Review-Final-Draft "GBU-16:Laser-guided, free-fall weapon with a 1,000lbMk-83 or BLU-1560109 bomb body. Laser codes are only preflight selectable." "(4) GBU-48 Enhanced Paveway II:Dual-mode laser/GPS-aided INSfree-1562fall weapon using the 1,000lbMk-83 bomb body." The fact that they specify that the gbu 16 cannot change its laser code while they never mention any such limitation on the gbu 48 leads on to recognize that the gbu 48 is capable of changing the laser code midflight, especially since this document will likely be used by jatac for the laser designation of targets. You are making assumptions based of a random internet page Planes: Choppers: Maps: Flaming Cliffs 3 Black Shark 2 Syria A-10C Tank killer 2 Black Shark 3 Persian Gulf F/A18C Hornet AH-64 Apache Mariana's F-16C Viper F-15E Strike Eagle Mirage 2000C AJS-37 Viggen JF-17 Thunder F-14 Tomcat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorluis2 Posted February 18 Author Share Posted February 18 30 minutes ago, Falconeer said: You are making assumptions based of a random internet page https://www.alsa.mil/mttps/jfire/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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