Slugmouse - a mouse button emulator for hand-tracked cockpit clicking.

[slughead]

2 hours ago, Tom28 said:

Finally found the time to test this out.

Reprogramming to Slugpad with the instructions supplied was straight forward - in some way.

Windows 11 23H2 / Bluetooth & Devices calls them now Slugpad Left and Right with a Nintendo-style gamepad as icon.

However, no new game controller in Game Controllers (Joy.cpl) or DCS, so unable to use in any way.

Unpair the devices in Windows, then repair them. Pair only one at a time, or Windows will get confused. You will then see two new devices in joy.cpl and DCS. I can't do anything about the device names in joy.cpl or DCS. This is a limitation of Windows and the BLE protocol/API.

[Tom28]

As always, works a treat 

[slughead]

All current orders are packed and will be shipped out this week, including a complete replacement (FOC, of course) order that the couriers managed to send to the wrong continent on the opposite side of the world. C'est la vie!

Would love to see dome photos or videos of you all with your Slugmice!

[slughead]

All orders that were placed this week are shipping out tomorrow!

[Alkaline]

Why cant I have the bitrate on 150 on HEVC codec? With less bitrate comes more compression artifacts/Pixelated image, wont it? And I already have enough of that, but I rly want this product

[slughead]

1 minute ago, Alkaline said:

Why cant I have the bitrate on 150 on HEVC codec? With less bitrate comes more compression artifacts/Pixelated image, wont it? And I already have enough of that, but I rly want this product

Did you mean to post that here or on some other topic?

[Alkaline]

On 1/13/2025 at 12:01 PM, Wostg said:

I told @slughead I'd do a more detailed guide but haven't had the time to test things as thoroughly as I'd like, so just to say:

The Pico 4 works with HTCC (and thus with slugmouse) using its native handtracking via OpenXR if you:

• Use the ALVR server app to stream from your pc, instead of Virtualdesktop or Pico Connect. The UI is less friendly but plays and configures for DCS just fine. Remember to not have the bitrate set to 150 in order to be playable.
• Use the ALXR pico client apk on your headset. It can be copied across folder to folder (or via adb tools), then installed and run as an untrusted app. Its barebones but sees your hands well enough.
• Its using OpenXR although SteamVR is the active runtime in SteamVR.
• Here's a screenshot of rough settings that work, having followed the HTCC guides.

Interesting to see that a 4th option is apparently coming I think via native steamlink support? which might hopefully allow for handtracking, passthrough, whatever else in one place.

Why cant I have the bitrate on 150 on HEVC codec? With less bitrate comes more compression artifacts/Pixelated image, wont it? And I already have enough of that, but I rly want this product

On 4/12/2025 at 12:54 AM, slughead said:

Did you mean to post that here or on some other topic?

haha yes, sorry. Edited now

Edited April 15 by Alkaline

[slughead]

I can’t help you with regards to bitrate and codec. It’s beyond the scope of this thread and Slugmouse.

[Wostg]

Oh yeah what he said ^^^ that bitrate was too much for my system so I just meant don't forget to find your sweet spot

[slughead]

All current orders are shipping out today! No two-year waiting lists. Place your order and it will be shipped within 1 to 2 weeks - sometimes in just a few days!

[Jadowz]

Hello slughead,

i don't understand very well, i've a crystal light and my crystal super arrive in the end of may.

I would like to know if slugmouse works with this setup or Do I need to buy the Leap Motion extra for this to work?

if i buy a hand module on pimax store ?

Can you explain me please, sorry for my english i'm french.

thank you

Edited May 5 by Jadowz

[slughead]

1 hour ago, Jadowz said:

Hello slughead,

i don't understand very well, i've a crystal light and my crystal super arrive in the end of may.

I would like to know if slugmouse works with this setup or Do I need to buy the Leap Motion extra for this to work?

if i buy a hand module on pimax store ?

Can you explain me please, sorry for my english i'm french.

thank you

For all Pimax headsets, you will either need the Pimax hand-tracking module or an Ultraleap Motion controller, as the Pimax does not natively support hand-tracking.

[Tom28]

As none of the Crystal headsets support the Pimax handtracking module, you will need the Ultraleap Motion Controller.

Edit: I stand corrected. The Crystal Light does not support the Pimax handtraking module 

I got mine cheap off eBay and stuck it to the front of my Crystal Light with double-sided sticky pads.

Edited May 7 by Tom28

[actually_fred]

17 minutes ago, Tom28 said:

As none of the Crystal headsets support the Pimax handtracking module, you will need the Ultraleap Motion Controller.

I got mine cheap off eBay and stuck it to the front of my Crystal Light with double-sided sticky pads.

The original crystal supports the module. The light and super might not.

[Tusk.V]

22 hours ago, Tom28 said:

As none of the Crystal headsets support the Pimax handtracking module, you will need the Ultraleap Motion Controller.

I got mine cheap off eBay and stuck it to the front of my Crystal Light with double-sided sticky pads.

22 hours ago, actually_fred said:

The original crystal supports the module. The light and super might not.

OG Crystal works fine. My Super came in a few weeks ago and the Pimax hand tracker does not and will not work with it. Pimax is working on integrating hand tracking into the Super though. I don't have an ETA on it. Unfortunately, I'll have to wait on them before I can use my SlugMouse to it's full capability. 

From Pimax:
“We sincerely apologize for the long wait caused by the time difference. We have consulted with our R&D engineers and learned that the Super model does not support the hand tracking feature of the old version. Instead, Super will be equipped with a brand-new gesture-recognition function. Please be patient, and we appreciate your understanding and cooperation.”

[GPatricks]

I have the SlugMouse\HTCC working great with my (native OpenXR) Varjo XR-3. I have ordered a Meganex 8k and have a new UltraLeap2 sitting in a box for it, but as it uses Steam's OpenXR will HTCC and Slugmouse function? Anyone running a SteamVR headset (like a BSB1 or BSB2) with a Slugmouse?

[Virto NEx]

Loving my Slugmouse! Takes a bit of getting used to, but I'm starting to get the hang of it. Much better than using a normal mouse for cockpit interaction. Couple of issues have popped up though, windows 11 has both L and R registered as Slugmouse Right. It originally correctly showed both Slugmouse Right and Slugmouse Left, but after playing around with the programming and trying Slugpad (or possibly something else, idk what actually caused it) it shows both as Slugmouse Right. I've tried removing them and re-adding and it still happens. Thoughts? Is there a way to factory reset the Slugmouse or something? Having both as Slugmouse Right means the right and left clicks are swapped on my left hand.

 

 

[slughead]

1 minute ago, Virto NEx said:

Loving my Slugmouse! Takes a bit of getting used to, but I'm starting to get the hang of it. Much better than using a normal mouse for cockpit interaction. Couple of issues have popped up though, windows 11 has both L and R registered as Slugmouse Right. It originally correctly showed both Slugmouse Right and Slugmouse Left, but after playing around with the programming and trying Slugpad (or possibly something else, idk what actually caused it) it shows both as Slugmouse Right. I've tried removing them and re-adding and it still happens. Thoughts? Is there a way to factory reset the Slugmouse or something? Having both as Slugmouse Right means the right and left clicks are swapped on my left hand.

 

 

Enter program mode and then press left three times to switch it to left hand Slugmouse. Exit program mode. Power off then on.

[slughead]

On 5/7/2025 at 5:56 PM, GPatricks said:

as it uses Steam's OpenXR will HTCC

You should check the HTCC website for compatibility or the HTCC discord channel. It should work provided it is OpenXR compliant. The Slugmouse will still function normally.

[Virto NEx]

On 5/12/2025 at 3:14 PM, slughead said:

Enter program mode and then press left three times to switch it to left hand Slugmouse. Exit program mode. Power off then on.

Thanks! I must have done the opposite at some point and switched it to right slugmouse.

[muzica9]

hi.

work with quest 3 in cable link mode? from what i know, meta quest link app does't support hand tracking. i don't use virtual desktop.

[slughead]

1 minute ago, muzica9 said:

hi.

work with quest 3 in cable link mode? from what i know, meta quest link app does't support hand tracking. i don't use virtual desktop.

Yes it will work. Hand tracking works well over the meta cable link.