Problems with Beaming a missile

[shackman]

I read about how to beam a missile when you first detect it go hard 90 to the right or left on your wing to stop the missile's dopplar track. But when I did that the thingslammed right into me. What did I do wrong I went hard 90 and it still hit me how do i evade these?

[joey45]

hide.

[slug88]

This principle only works for radar guided missiles. Was it an IR guided missile?

 

Also, this tactic probably doesn't work against radar guided missiles in a helicopter anyways, because the missile will always see the motion of your rotor blades, irrespective of your velocity with respect to the missile.

 

As for tactics that do work at spoofing radar guided missiles in the Ka-50, there is only "hide", as joey45 said. Generally, if you're in a situation where a radar guided missile has been launched at you, it's probably already too late.

Edited April 22, 2009 by slug88

[EtherealN]

A helicopter is not going to reliably defeat missiles through maneuver alone. Some maneuvers can give you slightly better odds, but your odds are never good.

 

So like joey says - put something between you and the missile, like a house or a hill. And do it fast.

 

EDIT: Slug88 also makes some really good points.

[shackman]

Shit I mean tot put this in the LOMAC general discussion. Sorry. I wasn't flying a helicopter I was flying an Eagle. But is there any other way to defeat the missiles in an Eagle?

[EtherealN]

Hahah, ah yeah, that's a slightly different thing. :D

 

Unfortunately I suck at handling fighters - I spent almost all my LOMAC time with the A-10 and (drool) Su-25, so I'd mainly use a lot of terrain there a well. :|

[topol-m]

Shit I mean tot put this in the LOMAC general discussion. Sorry. I wasn't flying a helicopter I was flying an Eagle. But is there any other way to defeat the missiles in an Eagle?

 

In some other thread Crunch has been very kind to give me a link to this site http://flankertraining.com/ironhand/index.html

where you can find a lot of useful tutorials and videos about missile evasion tactics and maneuvers and about other important problems like corner speed, etc... I`ve watched some of them and i learned a lot from them. Also if you haven`t watched the tutorials included in the game my advice is - do it. With them and with the ones in flankertraining.com you will have a number of maneuvers to avoid missiles and you will improve your overall air combat performance. :thumbup:

[Aeroscout]

You have to be below the fighter that launched the missile (or below the missile if it's ARH, such as an AMRAAM) I fly the Flanker, but the tactic is still the same. Get down to anywhere from 50 feet to 1000 feel and put the missile on your 3/9 like, aka, beaming it, aka, flying perpendicular to it. To further throw it off, try turning 180 deg. INTO the missile after a few seconds of beaming it. This will put the missile on the opposite side of you, feep you in the same general fighting area to avoid any SAMs that might be near by, and will also have made the missile fly farther.

 

There's no magical method to loose it every time, but this should work a lot of the time. However, as you get close, it gets difficult. The best thing to do in the Eagle is to get up to angels 50 and start dropping slammers on people.

 

Good luck! and don't get discouraged. You'll get it eventually. :thumbs:

[shackman]

In some other thread Crunch has been very kind to give me a link to this site http://flankertraining.com/ironhand/index.html

where you can find a lot of useful tutorials and videos about missile evasion tactics and maneuvers and about other important problems like corner speed, etc... I`ve watched some of them and i learned a lot from them. Also if you haven`t watched the tutorials included in the game my advice is - do it. With them and with the ones in flankertraining.com you will have a number of maneuvers to avoid missiles and you will improve your overall air combat performance. :thumbup:

I've always wanted to view that tutorial I even downloaded it. but whenever I try to open it it doesn't open it just sits there and I can olny hear audio I installed VLC player and still it didn't work can you tell me how to actually view the video or play the mission?

[Aeroscout]

Download the Xvid Codec. It should have been installed with lockon, but maybe it got deleted for some reason.

 

http://www.xvid.org/

 

EDIT: Just out of curiosity, what version of lock on are you flying? 1.02 or 1.12?

[topol-m]

I've always wanted to view that tutorial I even downloaded it. but whenever I try to open it it doesn't open it just sits there and I can olny hear audio I installed VLC player and still it didn't work can you tell me how to actually view the video or play the mission?

 

There are 2 types of videos in this site AFAIK - 1. the .avi format which i play using Gom Player (a free player which plays almost any formats), 2. some .ogg files which you place in a folder in your main LO folder and which are played in game. In game browse for "track files" in that folder and there will be the video. :thumbup:

[shackman]

Download the Xvid Codec. It should have been installed with lockon, but maybe it got deleted for some reason.

 

http://www.xvid.org/

 

EDIT: Just out of curiosity, what version of lock on are you flying? 1.02 or 1.12?

I downloaded that and still it doesn't work. But I have finally found it inside the game but when I lay the mission I'm in control of the aircraft and there is no audio instructions like I hear when i play them from the folder,. Is that the way the missions are supposed to be?

 

The version i have is 1.02

[Aeroscout]

hmm, try this: http://flankertraining.com/ironhand/Downloads/XviD-1.1.0-30122005.exe

 

When you go to open the tutorial in game, instead of clicking fly, hit "map" to go to the mission editor and then go to "Flight => Play Track" or press Crtl+P to play the track. Alternatively, you can go to the "show" button on the main menu and navigate to the .trk from there.

[shackman]

hmm, try this: http://flankertraining.com/ironhand/Downloads/XviD-1.1.0-30122005.exe

 

When you go to open the tutorial in game, instead of clicking fly, hit "map" to go to the mission editor and then go to "Flight => Play Track" or press Crtl+P to play the track. Alternatively, you can go to the "show" button on the main menu and navigate to the .trk from there.

Well that did make the computer take control by letting it play the rack but all it does is take control and then crash the airplane into the ground?

 

What's up with that?

[104th_Crunch]

I downloaded that and still it doesn't work. But I have finally found it inside the game but when I lay the mission I'm in control of the aircraft and there is no audio instructions like I hear when i play them from the folder,. Is that the way the missions are supposed to be?

 

The version i have is 1.02

 

I could never get the track to replay as well. Not sure which version of LO Ironhand used to record it.

 

Since you are using 1.02 I will plug Flaming Cliffs. Only $15, get it here

http://lockon.co.uk/index.php?lang=en

 

Also, some of the in game training tracks do not play back correctly as they were made in an ealier version. You can get them as avi videos here

http://www.virtual-jabog32.de/index.php?section=downloads&subcat=50

[Brit_Radar_Dude]

Shackman - see my answer here. It might help you.

 

http://www.lockonfiles.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=6446&sid=d20b35aa6558793121d11820590018d0

Edited April 24, 2009 by Brit_Radar_Dude