Tdc in recent update? Still different slew rates?

[wiwa23]

Hello, I am confused with latest update regarding tdc functionality.

Yesterday my whole virtual squadron was celebrating because we thought the different slew rates across different sensors (rdr vs sa page) was fixed, finally.

I am referring to "fixed: sa page tdc acts differently from rdr attk and az/el..."

But sadly I noticed no difference and was disappointed to notice the still apparent and annoyingly different slew rates of the cursor.

Did I miss anything or misinterpreted the patch note?

Thanks,

Wiwa

 

[Coyle]

The change added the ability to set L&S/DT2 & STT from the SA page using the TDC. This will be a more useful function when we're able to set L&S and such with out radar contribution via the future MSI feature.

Edited May 23, 2024 by Coyle

[Jenson]

Yes, I also noted the slew rate from RADAR and SA are still different (SA is much slower). 

[Muchocracker]

the change did not correct the slew rate. It was only for adding the ability to set L&S and DT2 on the SA page

[Lekaa]

Just now, Muchocracker said:

the change did not correct the slew rate. It was only for adding the ability to set L&S and DT2 on the SA page

That ability is not yet implemented?

Adding L&S and DT2

[Muchocracker]

.....That is what ths this changelog being talked about did

[Lekaa]

2 hours ago, Muchocracker said:

.....That is what ths this changelog being talked about did

I saw this picture you posted in another post made me confused because of the TDC courser have elev and alt on each side and I don't have that so i was questioning if there is something wrong with my "version" 
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Edited May 24, 2024 by Lekaa

[Muchocracker]

this is a completely unrelated forum this to this???

[Lekaa]

16 hours ago, Muchocracker said:

this is a completely unrelated forum this to this???

I know, just stating that the picture made me confused

Edited May 25, 2024 by Lekaa

[wilbur81]

On 5/24/2024 at 8:32 AM, Muchocracker said:

the change did not correct the slew rate. It was only for adding the ability to set L&S and DT2 on the SA page

This is not current and has never been a feature in DCS. It would be awesome to have, though.

Edited May 25, 2024 by wilbur81

[BarTzi]

2 hours ago, wilbur81 said:

This is not current and has never been a feature in DCS. It would be awesome to have, though.

 

It does sort of work now. The easiest way to test this is in the 8V8 BVR instant action mission.

Edited May 25, 2024 by BarTzi

[wilbur81]

21 hours ago, BarTzi said:

It does sort of work now. The easiest way to test this is in the 8V8 BVR instant action mission.

 

Well, I'll be darned... indeed it does. I guess I wasn't clicking hard enough my first go around.  Thanks, BarTzi!

Edited May 26, 2024 by wilbur81

[Viral-51st-Vfw]

Still requires ownship hits? I'm not sure I see the practical benefit over just doing it on radar format.

If that's what the real jet does then my question is moot.

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[wilbur81]

16 minutes ago, Viral-51st-Vfw said:

Still requires ownship hits? I'm not sure I see the practical benefit over just doing it on radar format.
 

If so, then I agree with you. I've only played with it for all of 90 seconds... but was always under the impression that the radar (within gimble limits) would slave to the SA hafu?

[Coyle]

It's like no one read my/the first reply to the OP lol.

The change did two things, it:
1: Removed speed and altitude from the cursor itself, it's now attached to tracks and:
2: You can L&S/DT2 and STT via the TDC, asuming things are inside your radars settings. Yes, this is not practical currently because we're missing MSI, where you can set L&S regardless of if the radar sees it or not, we are desperately missing MSI, the core system of how our hornet's avionics are meant to be operated with.

[wilbur81]

5 minutes ago, Coyle said:

It's like no one read my/the first reply to the OP lol.
 

You're correct... I did not. Thanks for the info. It makes sense, though, that the radar has to have the HAFU within it's gimble limits in order to make it a L&S from the SA.

Edited May 26, 2024 by wilbur81

[Viral-51st-Vfw]

It's like no one read my/the first reply to the OP lol.

The change did two things, it:
1: Removed speed and altitude from the cursor itself, it's now attached to tracks and:
2: You can L&S/DT2 and STT via the TDC, asuming things are inside your radars settings. Yes, this is not practical currently because we're missing MSI, where you can set L&S regardless of if the radar sees it or not, we are desperately missing MSI, the core system of how our hornet's avionics are meant to be operated with.

I didn't see yours nor jensons until now.

Thanks tapatalk

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[BarTzi]

57 minutes ago, Viral-51st-Vfw said:

Still requires ownship hits? I'm not sure I see the practical benefit over just doing it on radar format.

If that's what the real jet does then my question is moot.

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It looks like it, sadly.

[Viper33]

On 5/26/2024 at 4:04 PM, Viral-51st-Vfw said:

Still requires ownship hits? I'm not sure I see the practical benefit over just doing it on radar format.

If that's what the real jet does then my question is moot.

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Well, it likely is easier to use the SA page than the B-scope. Real jet should be able to L&S anything that is a track, even with no ownship radar or sensors.

[Muchocracker]

On 5/26/2024 at 9:04 AM, Viral-51st-Vfw said:

Still requires ownship hits? I'm not sure I see the practical benefit over just doing it on radar format.

If that's what the real jet does then my question is moot.

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pft, i wish we had the full MSI trackfiles by now

Unfortunately not, it's only for onboard radar trackfiles. Just like the radar attack format. 
 

Edited May 27, 2024 by Muchocracker