[Bug] chaff/flares cannot be removed

[D4n]

Even when not equipping AI F-4E with ALE-40 dispenser, it still has flares and dumps them when getting into firing position. They cannot be removed.

Edited May 24, 2024 by HB_Painter
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[Zabuzard]

Are you saying that you can deploy chaff and flares without equipping the dispenser? Or the AI?

The setting that you are showing should be totally ineffective and definitely not give you or anyone else chaff/flare, hence it is also grayed out.

[Northstar98]

5 hours ago, D4n said:

Even when not equipping AI F-4E with ALE-40 dispenser, it still has flares and dumps them when getting into firing position. They cannot be removed.

 

This a general DCS AI problem - they're only set up for countermeasures that are carried internally (i.e. not something that's added in the loadout).

It's not just the F-4E, the AJS 37, the MiG-21bis and the Tornado (though with the AJS 37 and the Tornado it is possible to set the countermeasures to 0 to prevent the AI having countermeasures without the appropriate payload).

AI versions of the Mirage F1 that rely on Phimat for countermeasures don't have anything whatsoever - a consequence of DCS' AI not support countermeasure dispensers as pods.

Every aircraft that uses a pod or something you have to equip in the loadout in order to have countermeasures (such as the Phantom) is similarly affected, though with those you can set the numbers to 0 to prevent the AI from having countermeasures.

[Stackup]

The solution to this is easy, just set the AI to not use chaff and flares.  This will work on any AI aircraft that makes use of external countermeasure pods and does not allow you to set the counts to 0.

 

[D4n]

On 5/23/2024 at 9:33 PM, Northstar98 said:

It's not just the F-4E, the AJS 37, the MiG-21bis and the Tornado

There is no Tornado module for DCS... do you mean a mod??