Landing gear update

[Theodore42]

Hi!

I'd like to request that the Yak-52 get the updates to the new landing gear model that is being implemented to other modules.

This is an amazing module. I wasn't expecting to like it and just bought it because it was on sale and I had been flying the Extra 330 in a competing flight sim. SO GLAD I DID!

These are the reasons I think the Yak-52 should get the updated landing gear:

1. The Yak-52 is a great training aircraft. I didn't buy this module because it is a trainer. But DCS is a PREMIUM simulator. The kinds of people that are attracted to DCS modules are going to do all the checklists, checkouts, training flights as described in the manual. I had an unexpected blast learning the Yak-52 and flying it as a trainer.

2. The Yak-52 is the only aerobatic aircraft in DCS. It excellently showcases ED's commitment to the flight model. I had no idea how inferior DCS's competitors were until I bought the Yak-52. It does what it should! I make the same mistakes real pilots make, and I can correct them based on advice from real pilots to real pilots. None of these things I experienced playing on the competing sim.

3. Warbirds are hard to fly. In the most sophisticated flight sim on the market, they are the hardest. As soon as I took off the first time I recognized the value of this trainer. The low speeds and complex (but still easy) engine management make learning energy management easy. When everything is so slow the wisdom of certain actions becomes obvious very fast. You can't get this level of feedback flying a warbird. imo the biggest hurdle people have learning warbirds is understanding how much energy you're losing from your choices. If you fly dumb in a warbird you just lose. If you fly dumb in a Yak-52, you are either overspeeding or stalling.

4. DCS is an environment created by it's modules. The second terrain released was the Nevada Test and TRAINING Range. Training has been part of the DCS vision from the very beginning.

5. The La-7 will be out soon. Wouldn't it be nice to promote a Russian trainer, profit, hype a 3rd party's module sales, then increase your sales back again? A virtuous cycle of $$$ 

6. Squadrons, streamers, and online players do training missions together. Getting people to play with others or stream to an audience creates an external, social motive to keep coming back to DCS. And the shallow learning curve of a trainer minimizes the frustration factor.

7. The aerobatic nature of the Yak-52, the multiplayer aspect of DCS, and the competitive nature of people that like airplanes massively expand the Yak-52's e-peen factor.

8. The Yak-52 just has weird landing gear. People see the Yak-52 in the game for the first time and they think, wtf is wrong with that thing? So people are just going to be looking at (and judging) the landings more than other aircraft. If the Yak-52 looks realistic on a botched landing, people are going to remember it.

Landing out in the Yak-52 is really fun. I like to find small fields in Normandy and see how short I can land.

In the DCS Pantheon of aircraft the Yak-52 has a clear and distinct place! Adding the new gear model to the Yak-52 will add much more value to DCS than it will cost imo!

[Freakmeister51]

On 6/15/2024 at 5:04 AM, Theodore42 said:

Hi!

I'd like to request that the Yak-52 get the updates to the new landing gear model that is being implemented to other modules.

This is an amazing module. I wasn't expecting to like it and just bought it because it was on sale and I had been flying the Extra 330 in a competing flight sim. SO GLAD I DID!

These are the reasons I think the Yak-52 should get the updated landing gear:

1. The Yak-52 is a great training aircraft. I didn't buy this module because it is a trainer. But DCS is a PREMIUM simulator. The kinds of people that are attracted to DCS modules are going to do all the checklists, checkouts, training flights as described in the manual. I had an unexpected blast learning the Yak-52 and flying it as a trainer.

2. The Yak-52 is the only aerobatic aircraft in DCS. It excellently showcases ED's commitment to the flight model. I had no idea how inferior DCS's competitors were until I bought the Yak-52. It does what it should! I make the same mistakes real pilots make, and I can correct them based on advice from real pilots to real pilots. None of these things I experienced playing on the competing sim.

3. Warbirds are hard to fly. In the most sophisticated flight sim on the market, they are the hardest. As soon as I took off the first time I recognized the value of this trainer. The low speeds and complex (but still easy) engine management make learning energy management easy. When everything is so slow the wisdom of certain actions becomes obvious very fast. You can't get this level of feedback flying a warbird. imo the biggest hurdle people have learning warbirds is understanding how much energy you're losing from your choices. If you fly dumb in a warbird you just lose. If you fly dumb in a Yak-52, you are either overspeeding or stalling.

4. DCS is an environment created by it's modules. The second terrain released was the Nevada Test and TRAINING Range. Training has been part of the DCS vision from the very beginning.

5. The La-7 will be out soon. Wouldn't it be nice to promote a Russian trainer, profit, hype a 3rd party's module sales, then increase your sales back again? A virtuous cycle of $$$ 

6. Squadrons, streamers, and online players do training missions together. Getting people to play with others or stream to an audience creates an external, social motive to keep coming back to DCS. And the shallow learning curve of a trainer minimizes the frustration factor.

7. The aerobatic nature of the Yak-52, the multiplayer aspect of DCS, and the competitive nature of people that like airplanes massively expand the Yak-52's e-peen factor.

8. The Yak-52 just has weird landing gear. People see the Yak-52 in the game for the first time and they think, wtf is wrong with that thing? So people are just going to be looking at (and judging) the landings more than other aircraft. If the Yak-52 looks realistic on a botched landing, people are going to remember it.

Landing out in the Yak-52 is really fun. I like to find small fields in Normandy and see how short I can land.

In the DCS Pantheon of aircraft the Yak-52 has a clear and distinct place! Adding the new gear model to the Yak-52 will add much more value to DCS than it will cost imo!

Thoroughly agree with you on this Theodore, the Yak was my first module purely for flight training but I feel that it has been left as an afterthought, very sad. However, the. Christan Eagle 2 is a very capable stunt aircraft too, unless you were only referring to Eagle Dynamics modules. Great post.

[mikko.1842]

4 hours ago, Freakmeister51 said:

Thoroughly agree with you on this Theodore, the Yak was my first module purely for flight training but I feel that it has been left as an afterthought, very sad. However, the. Christan Eagle 2 is a very capable stunt aircraft too, unless you were only referring to Eagle Dynamics modules. Great post.

CE2 is also in an abandonware-state currently... as well as L-39 and Yak-52. 

But I do agree with you guys, and I too wish for some relevant updates.

[Freakmeister51]

2 hours ago, mikko.1842 said:

CE2 is also in an abandonware-state currently... as well as L-39 and Yak-52. 

But I do agree with you guys, and I too wish for some relevant updates.

Abandoned is an understatement.

[bbrz]

On 6/15/2024 at 6:04 AM, Theodore42 said:

I had been flying the Extra 330 in a competing flight sim. SO GLAD I DID!

Curious which sim you are considering a competing flight sim since e.g. MSFS2020 is one of the worst sims from an aerodynamic POV.

Btw. there are still  basic aerodynamic bugs in the DCS Yak-52. Suggest to watch a few RW comparison videos in this thread;

 

Edited June 30 by bbrz