not a bug Spin Recovery Mode seems always active since last update

[Phil C6]

Hi maybe i'm not right but it seems the effect of spin recovery mode on the FM is always activate (the ability to pull aft at slow speed and move the nose up fastly as with the spin recovery mode)

Best regards

Edited July 16, 2024 by Phil C6

[Lord Vader]

Hi @Phil C6

Can you please elaborate on this? The crash recovery mode is only active when the plane detects the conditions to engage. What do you mean "always active"?

Also, please add a track replay if you feel this is an issue.

[Phil C6]

On 7/17/2024 at 9:56 AM, Lord Vader said:

Hi @Phil C6

Can you please elaborate on this? The crash recovery mode is only active when the plane detects the conditions to engage. What do you mean "always active"?

Also, please add a track replay if you feel this is an issue.

Hi sorry it seems maybe i done a mistake here it's maybe from the new FM.
In the past (previous version before the FM update) the spin recovery mode gave (under 150Kcas) extra and fast pitch control (and vertical turn rate), now it seems this extra pitch is always possible spin recovery or no spin recovery (maybe i'm not right here too and it's different from the previous extra pitch with the spin recovery)
I do almost Dogfight with F18 on DCS but i'm not specialist of slow speed (same with spin recovery) just tested the spin recovery because it was mentionned in the change log of the previous update ("Fixed: Spin Recovery Mode is not working.") and noticed  the spin recovery button hasn't anymore effect on the pitch
In the rules of the ladder I participate the spin recovery is forbiden (from memory it was because of this extra pitch control)

But someone maked me noticed now the spin recovery button works on the rudder and lateral stick action and yes it's effective.

Best regards

Pitch under 150Kcas.trk

[Lord Vader]

Glad you sorted it out, yes, the Spin Recovery activates when it detects the conditions of an uncontrolled lateral (yaw) spin by instructing the pilot to move the stick to one direction on the MFDs while it attempts to lower the nose to gain speed. It's not designed to do any enhancement on the pitch axis.

Maybe your are referring to the G-limiter (paddle) button? That one, indeed, adds an extra authority on the pitch axis. 

 

[Phil C6]

1 minute ago, Lord Vader said:

Maybe your are referring to the G-limiter (paddle) button? That one, indeed, adds an extra authority on the pitch axis. 

 

Hi no i mean spin recovery but it was before the last big FM update (and didn't try since several time (maybe years) before the update of this month)

PS: is it normal we can select gun mode with spin recovery? in the past it was possible and after it wasn't and now again possible

[Lord Vader]

The Spin Recovery mode is not designed for aerial combat. Even if it's realistic to actually choose weapons, the pilot has to be more worried about recovering the aircraft if he's in a flat spin.

[Phil C6]

4 minutes ago, Lord Vader said:

The Spin Recovery mode is not designed for aerial combat. Even if it's realistic to actually choose weapons, the pilot has to be more worried about recovering the aircraft if he's in a flat spin.

Ok thx for answer yes in real world and real flat spin, but with the update and all these tests and question/answer to other players it seems few guys use it for doing a faster pirouette/reversal

Best regards

[Phil C6]

On 7/23/2024 at 9:49 AM, Lord Vader said:

The Spin Recovery mode is not designed for aerial combat. Even if it's realistic to actually choose weapons, the pilot has to be more worried about recovering the aircraft if he's in a flat spin.

Hi is it possible in external view to recognize in Dogfight if the Spin Recovery has been enable?

Best regards

[Lord Vader]

I don't know exactly what you mean by "recognizing" if this mode is engaged. Looking externally, I don't think this can be easily identified, perhaps the plane will move in a way you're not expecting. Other than that, I'm not sure.

[Phil C6]

Hi i mean in F4 view by ex
Part of plane must have special position in Spin recovery (tail, elevon, flaps, ...)?

Best regards

Edited September 2, 2024 by Phil C6

[Lord Vader]

We'll, when you engage the recovery mode you can probably see a bigger movement of the control surfaces.
But I'd say that's a bit hard to discern if you're in a dogfight.