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Hi, DCS suddenly started crashing on start-up after rebooting my PC. Before that, I was having zero issues - I hadn't experienced any problems since the last update until now. I cannot get the game to launch.

I only get the small NVIDIA & DCS splash screens before crash. It doesn't actually launch and start loading the blue progress bar.

  • Windows 10 is updated.
  • I have run the PowerShell cleanup and repairs. I also ran cleanup and repair through the new launcher for redundancy, though I doubt it's any different. Neither seems to find any issue.
  • I have tried launching from the new launcher both in flat screen and VR.
  • I have tried launching from bin in Windows Explorer without the launcher.
  • I have no mods installed currently.
  • I have cleared my FXO and metashader folders. I ran a cleanup and repair after clearing these out.
  • DCS is updated, and I'm logged in and connected for authentication.
  • I have some custom liveries and knee boards but none of these have ever caused an issue. They were working fine before the reboot today.
  • I trialed and downloaded the Afghanistan terrain. I have not run the map yet and the game was running fine after downloading.
  • DCS is allowed in Windows Defender 

I'm running "Check all files (slow)" repair now.

Crash logs are attached - I am not sure which are required.

I appreciate any input.

Hardware Edit:

  • Quest Pro via Link Cable
  • Windows 10
  • Ryzen 7 7800X3D
  • RTX 4090
  • 64 GB DDR5
  • NVMe m.2 SSD

I was prompted to update the Oculus desktop app but this was after the issue started. I updated thinking it could be the culprit but no joy on that front.

Found this error in my crash log: "MSCTF.dll"

Tried following the related topic listed in this troubleshooting guide. Have tried removing anything relating to voice recognition - windows, voice attack, srs, ect. But there are many files associated and I may have missed some. 

Edit 2:

The check all files (slow) repair took all night but it seems to have fixed the issue. I'm going to reinstall voice attack and SRS, hopefully the issue doesn't replicate itself.

dcs.20240716-043312.log dxdiag.txt dcs.20240716-043312.crash dcs.20240716-043312.dmp

Edited by mad.mad.mad
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Hi. In your case, the MSCTF.dll is not the one causing the crash, it's Visualizer.dll, as seen below:

	['flatTerrainShadows'] = 2;
	['civTraffic'] = 'low';
	['ScreenshotExt'] = 'jpg';
};
2024-07-16 04:33:12.050 INFO    EDCORE (Main): try to write dump information
2024-07-16 04:33:12.071 INFO    EDCORE (Main): # -------------- 20240716-043312 --------------
2024-07-16 04:33:12.072 INFO    EDCORE (Main): DCS/2.9.6.57650 (x86_64; MT; Windows NT 10.0.19045)
2024-07-16 04:33:12.073 INFO    EDCORE (Main): D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin-mt\Visualizer.dll
2024-07-16 04:33:12.074 INFO    EDCORE (Main): # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 00007ffcff34304e 00:00000000
2024-07-16 04:33:12.075 INFO    EDCORE (Main): SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.', symOptions: 532, UserName: 'zacar'
2024-07-16 04:33:12.079 INFO    EDCORE (Main): OS-Version: 10.0.19045 () 0x100-0x1
2024-07-16 04:33:12.080 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000001f304e (Visualizer): TransformComponent::validatePositionsTree + 0x6E64E
2024-07-16 04:33:12.081 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000001080 (VCRUNTIME140_1): (function-name not available) + 0x0
2024-07-16 04:33:12.082 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000002715 (VCRUNTIME140_1): __NLG_Return2 + 0x15C5
2024-07-16 04:33:12.082 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000a1c96 (ntdll): RtlCaptureContext2 + 0x4A6
2024-07-16 04:33:12.082 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000001b3b3c (Visualizer): TransformComponent::validatePositionsTree + 0x2F13C
2024-07-16 04:33:12.082 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000195878 (Visualizer): TransformComponent::validatePositionsTree + 0x10E78
2024-07-16 04:33:12.082 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000001954a7 (Visualizer): TransformComponent::validatePositionsTree + 0x10AA7
2024-07-16 04:33:12.082 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000011ef66 (Visualizer): try_get_HMDcontroller_pos + 0x8DB6
2024-07-16 04:33:12.082 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000109131 (Visualizer): TerrainRenderer::updateSharedParams + 0x2461
2024-07-16 04:33:12.083 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000010c247 (Visualizer): HMD::initialize + 0x477
2024-07-16 04:33:12.083 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000090bf08 (DCS): SW + 0x422578
2024-07-16 04:33:12.083 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000090a9b6 (DCS): SW + 0x421026
2024-07-16 04:33:12.083 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000002257648 (DCS): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0x11E4644
2024-07-16 04:33:12.083 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000cb7c6e (DCS): SW + 0x7CE2DE
2024-07-16 04:33:12.083 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000017374 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14
2024-07-16 04:33:12.203 INFO    EDCORE (Main): Minidump created.

 

The crash happens right when DCS tries to initialize your VR gear.

Try this for a start:

  1. Browse to "./DCS World/distr" (or "./DCS World OpenBeta/distr").
  2. Run redist_x64.exe and click "Repair".
  3. Now run vc_redist.x64.exe and click "Install". If the installation comes to a halt, it's OK: it means this package is already installed on your computer.

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Posted (edited)

Same here, it's also doing the same with MSFS as well as DCS. I can't repair redist it just says install and then nothing.

Edited by Hawke81
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Posted
16 hours ago, mad.mad.mad said:

Hi, DCS suddenly started crashing on start-up after rebooting my PC. Before that, I was having zero issues - I hadn't experienced any problems since the last update until now. I cannot get the game to launch.

I only get the small NVIDIA & DCS splash screens before crash. It doesn't actually launch and start loading the blue progress bar.

  • Windows 10 is updated.
  • I have run the PowerShell cleanup and repairs. I also ran cleanup and repair through the new launcher for redundancy, though I doubt it's any different. Neither seems to find any issue.
  • I have tried launching from the new launcher both in flat screen and VR.
  • I have tried launching from bin in Windows Explorer without the launcher.
  • I have no mods installed currently.
  • I have cleared my FXO and metashader folders. I ran a cleanup and repair after clearing these out.
  • DCS is updated, and I'm logged in and connected for authentication.
  • I have some custom liveries and knee boards but none of these have ever caused an issue. They were working fine before the reboot today.
  • I trialed and downloaded the Afghanistan terrain. I have not run the map yet and the game was running fine after downloading.
  • DCS is allowed in Windows Defender 

I'm running "Check all files (slow)" repair now.

Crash logs are attached - I am not sure which are required.

I appreciate any input.

Hardware Edit:

  • Quest Pro via Link Cable
  • Windows 10
  • Ryzen 7 7800X3D
  • RTX 4090
  • 64 GB DDR5
  • NVMe m.2 SSD

I was prompted to update the Oculus desktop app but this was after the issue started. I updated thinking it could be the culprit but no joy on that front.

Found this error in my crash log: "MSCTF.dll"

Tried following the related topic listed in this troubleshooting guide. Have tried removing anything relating to voice recognition - windows, voice attack, srs, ect. But there are many files associated and I may have missed some. 

Edit 2:

The check all files (slow) repair took all night but it seems to have fixed the issue. I'm going to reinstall voice attack and SRS, hopefully the issue doesn't replicate itself.

dcs.20240716-043312.log 65.26 kB · 4 downloads dxdiag.txt 180.15 kB · 5 downloads dcs.20240716-043312.crash 1.26 kB · 7 downloads dcs.20240716-043312.dmp 536.21 kB · 4 downloads

 

My issue was the beta drivers for oculus, unsubscribe to them and it worked fine 

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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, Flappie said:

Hi. In your case, the MSCTF.dll is not the one causing the crash, it's Visualizer.dll, as seen below:

	['flatTerrainShadows'] = 2;
	['civTraffic'] = 'low';
	['ScreenshotExt'] = 'jpg';
};
2024-07-16 04:33:12.050 INFO    EDCORE (Main): try to write dump information
2024-07-16 04:33:12.071 INFO    EDCORE (Main): # -------------- 20240716-043312 --------------
2024-07-16 04:33:12.072 INFO    EDCORE (Main): DCS/2.9.6.57650 (x86_64; MT; Windows NT 10.0.19045)
2024-07-16 04:33:12.073 INFO    EDCORE (Main): D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin-mt\Visualizer.dll
2024-07-16 04:33:12.074 INFO    EDCORE (Main): # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 00007ffcff34304e 00:00000000
2024-07-16 04:33:12.075 INFO    EDCORE (Main): SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.', symOptions: 532, UserName: 'zacar'
2024-07-16 04:33:12.079 INFO    EDCORE (Main): OS-Version: 10.0.19045 () 0x100-0x1
2024-07-16 04:33:12.080 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000001f304e (Visualizer): TransformComponent::validatePositionsTree + 0x6E64E
2024-07-16 04:33:12.081 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000001080 (VCRUNTIME140_1): (function-name not available) + 0x0
2024-07-16 04:33:12.082 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000002715 (VCRUNTIME140_1): __NLG_Return2 + 0x15C5
2024-07-16 04:33:12.082 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000a1c96 (ntdll): RtlCaptureContext2 + 0x4A6
2024-07-16 04:33:12.082 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000001b3b3c (Visualizer): TransformComponent::validatePositionsTree + 0x2F13C
2024-07-16 04:33:12.082 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000195878 (Visualizer): TransformComponent::validatePositionsTree + 0x10E78
2024-07-16 04:33:12.082 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000001954a7 (Visualizer): TransformComponent::validatePositionsTree + 0x10AA7
2024-07-16 04:33:12.082 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000011ef66 (Visualizer): try_get_HMDcontroller_pos + 0x8DB6
2024-07-16 04:33:12.082 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000109131 (Visualizer): TerrainRenderer::updateSharedParams + 0x2461
2024-07-16 04:33:12.083 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000010c247 (Visualizer): HMD::initialize + 0x477
2024-07-16 04:33:12.083 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000090bf08 (DCS): SW + 0x422578
2024-07-16 04:33:12.083 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000090a9b6 (DCS): SW + 0x421026
2024-07-16 04:33:12.083 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000002257648 (DCS): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0x11E4644
2024-07-16 04:33:12.083 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000cb7c6e (DCS): SW + 0x7CE2DE
2024-07-16 04:33:12.083 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000017374 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14
2024-07-16 04:33:12.203 INFO    EDCORE (Main): Minidump created.

 

The crash happens right when DCS tries to initialize your VR gear.

Try this for a start:

  1. Browse to "./DCS World/distr" (or "./DCS World OpenBeta/distr").
  2. Run redist_x64.exe and click "Repair".
  3. Now run vc_redist.x64.exe and click "Install". If the installation comes to a halt, it's OK: it means this package is already installed on your computer.

Thank you for the reply! This unfortunately didn't solve the issue.

2 hours ago, Hawke81 said:

My issue was the beta drivers for oculus, unsubscribe to them and it worked fine 

Unsubscribe to beta drivers in the Oculus Desktop app? If I'm subscribed I didn't realise. Is there any way to roll back the drivers? I'm relatively new to Oculus. 

Searching it up right now.

Thanks for the input!

Edited by mad.mad.mad
Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Hawke81 said:

My issue was the beta drivers for oculus, unsubscribe to them and it worked fine 

@Hawke81 Thanks for the tip! This seems to have sorted the issue - great catch! Apparently, I had opted into beta when I set up QuadViews.

2 hours ago, Flappie said:

Thanks for your feedback. 👍

@mad.mad.mad Does this solution work for you?

@Flappie Yes, rolling back the beta drivers seems to have solved the issue. Thanks for your help!

Is there a way to disable VR if something like this happens again? It tries to launch DCS in VR whether I pick VR or Desktop in the new launcher.

Edited by mad.mad.mad
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