reported Can’t add members or donors when using Dynamic spawn

[Yuma]

Datalink won’t work when spawning in the Dynamic spawn. Won’t let you add members or donors.

https://www.reddit.com/r/dcsworld/s/KwfDgwDjUC

[Muchocracker]

it's a known issue. If you look in your DL pages you'll see your STN box is empty or X'd out. Dynamic Spawns doesnt seem to be automatically assigning them. 

Edited August 3, 2024 by Muchocracker

[slans]

The dynamically-spawned aircraft appear to inherit the datalink STN number from the template aircraft, which seems to be leading to every aircraft derived from a specific dynamic spawn template being assigned the same STN. As Muchocracker says, when no dynamic template is assigned to the spawn, the first character of the STN is given as an X.

Not had the chance to test this with multiple players or any other planes myself, but I would imagine with the Viper (for example) you'd just be able to edit your own STN on the DED as a workaround. The obvious solution on ED's end would just be to dynamically assign all STNs as of spawning the aircraft.

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Edited August 3, 2024 by slans

[Yuma]

I can confirm that with the F16 since you can manually enter the STN, you can add members and donors, however those that dynamically spawned will have the same STN, so just one of them will be added as a member. In the F18, as far as I know, you can’t edit the STN as a client in multiplayer but even if you do, all F18 have the same STN, as @slans explained above.

[Muchocracker]

55 minutes ago, slans said:

The dynamically-spawned aircraft appear to inherit the datalink STN number from the template aircraft, which seems to be leading to every aircraft derived from a specific dynamic spawn template being assigned the same STN. As Muchocracker says, when no dynamic template is assigned to the spawn, the first character of the STN is given as an X.

Not had the chance to test this with multiple players or any other planes myself, but I would imagine with the Viper (for example) you'd just be able to edit your own STN on the DED as a workaround. The obvious solution on ED's end would just be to dynamically assign all STNs as of spawning the aircraft.

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jesus....That's gonna cause so many more issues. I'll add this to what's already been reported. 

Edited August 3, 2024 by Muchocracker

[Yuma]

So I tried it in the regular spawn (Spot spawn I think it’s the name) and I couldn’t get my buddy in as a member either, worst yet, I couldn’t not even see him in the SA page at all. I can only see him via HMD Mids or by the A-A radar Datalink is messed up.

[Muchocracker]

3 minutes ago, Yuma said:

So I tried it in the regular spawn (Spot spawn I think it’s the name) and I couldn’t get my buddy in as a member either, worst yet, I couldn’t not even see him in the SA page at all. I can only see him via HMD Mids or by the A-A radar Datalink is messed up.

You're gonna have to give more details chief. What is your STN showing on the TGT DATA, is it your mission file or somewhere else like a public server, was your buddy a hornet or another aircraft? If he wasnt showing up on the SA page then one of your TNDL's was turned off, that or STN's are not set up correctly. 

[Yuma]

1 hour ago, Muchocracker said:

You're gonna have to give more details chief. What is your STN showing on the TGT DATA, is it your mission file or somewhere else like a public server, was your buddy a hornet or another aircraft? If he wasnt showing up on the SA page then one of your TNDL's was turned off, that or STN's are not set up correctly. 

We were in 4YA server. Didn’t write down our STN. Yes, another hornet. As far as our datalink, we know how to setup our F18 and datalink so believe me, it’s not properly working. Don’t know if it’s the server or this last DCS update but prior to the July update the hornet datalink was working properly. The other night I was flying the F16 and I was going to add two F18s as members, and I founded really weird when the two of them provided the same STN 00201. I don’t think the STNs are setup correctly.

Edited August 3, 2024 by Yuma

[Muchocracker]

1 hour ago, Yuma said:

We were in 4YA server. Didn’t write down our STN. Yes, another hornet. As far as our datalink, we know how to setup our F18 and datalink so believe me, it’s not properly working. Don’t know if it’s the server or this last DCS update but prior to the July update the hornet datalink was working properly. The other night I was flying the F16 and I was going to add two F18s as members, and I founded really weird when the two of them provided the same STN 00201. I don’t think the STNs are setup correctly.

 

Recreate the issue and post a track, there is something else going on that i don't have the context to see. I don't have this problem on 4YA

[Yuma]

8 hours ago, Muchocracker said:

Recreate the issue and post a track, there is something else going on that i don't have the context to see. I don't have this problem on 4YA

I’m a try to get a track4YA_SYR_PVE2_DS_V2.57[05_FEB_FEW_NIGHT]-20240803-162216.trk. I know I’m not the only one, could be server side:

https://discord.com/channels/535854558459592704/1269084355305799742

Added a track, dont know if you going to be able to open it as I always get Mission Load Fail in Replay

Noticed that the issue is when Dynamic spawn, tried a different server and the Member donor worked when using Slot spawn instead.

Edited August 3, 2024 by Yuma

[Muchocracker]

5 hours ago, Yuma said:

Noticed that the issue is when Dynamic spawn, tried a different server and the Member donor worked when using Slot spawn instead.

wait, so was the issue occuring when using dynamic spawn, or slot spawn? Your original wording was normal slot spawn. 

[Yuma]

7 minutes ago, Muchocracker said:

wait, so was the issue occuring when using dynamic spawn, or slot spawn? Your original wording was normal slot spawn. 

So the issue it’s mainly in dynamic spawn, however I got confused yesterday as 4YA doesn’t not have Slot spawn because of the current issue in DCS of massive stutters at the lobby, so yesterday I thought I was in Slot spawn but I wasn’t. So yes the issue is in Dynamic spawn. I tried a different server and in Slot spawn (After disabling Super carrier module, workaround for now) I was able to add some aircraft as members, I can only figured that those I couldn’t add had their datalink off. So as @slans stated the issue is when Dynamic spawning. If you look at the subject of the thread my first issue was always in Dynamic spawn until yesterday that I wanted to try Slot spawn but I mistakenly thought I was slot spawning but I wasn’t. Sorry for the confusion, but the problem is in Dynamic spawns.

Edited August 3, 2024 by Yuma

[Yuma]

@Muchocracker By the way as of today's patch this still not solved even thou I saw somewhere in the changelogs it said that it was fixed. Tried it tonight in 4YA server and Dynamic spawn still shows my buddy as PLID and can't add him as Member, however other F18s, I can, but not some F18s, and I think it's because those Dynamically spawned just like my buddy.

[Muchocracker]

18 minutes ago, Yuma said:

@Muchocracker By the way as of today's patch this still not solved even thou I saw somewhere in the changelogs it said that it was fixed. Tried it tonight in 4YA server and Dynamic spawn still shows my buddy as PLID and can't add him as Member, however other F18s, I can, but not some F18s, and I think it's because those Dynamically spawned just like my buddy.

Will look into it. 

[OUO]

22小时前，Muchocracker说：

Will look into it. 

The STN code given by the dynamic rebirth position is as follows:0H674.not pure numbers

 

[Yuma]

18 minutes ago, OUO said:

The STN code given by the dynamic rebirth position is as follows:0H674.not pure numbers

 

And if you check almost everyone has the same SN number, sometimes can’t even see them in the SA page.

[Archer.xd]

Cannot replicate here, maybe an old mission and needs to be resaved. I'd talk to server admin-mision editor for that.

Edited August 11, 2024 by Archer.xd

[Muchocracker]

5 hours ago, OUO said:

The STN code given by the dynamic rebirth position is as follows:0H674.not pure numbers

 

What server is this by chance. 

Try setting up a dynamic spawn in a clean mission and see if it sets things up right. Could be something about the server running a miz before the patch.

[Yuma]

5 hours ago, Archer.xd said:

Cannot replicate here, maybe an old mission and needs to be resaved. I'd talk to server admin-mision editor for that.

 

I just send 4YA a message but they closed my post saying it was on EDs to fix this, so we will see how willingly are they to try this. 

[[TN] Sir Rhino]

I have already saved this new mision 17 times since the dynamic spawns were released it not that

 

[BIGNEWY]

this has been reported

thank you 

[Muchocracker]

@OUO@Yuma

So we've done some investigation and found that letters are getting inserted into STN's of dynamic templates that were created before the latest patch. For those 4YA server we found had them they were corrected. 


There is still the secondary problem of every aircraft spawned using a DS template having duplicate STN's. That one can't be fixed and we're gonna have to wait for ED. So you'll still be prohibited from adding members and donors with those slots. You'll get SURV donations tho. 

Edited August 12, 2024 by Muchocracker

[OUO]

2024/8/11 PM7点54分，Muchocracker说：

What server is this by chance. 

Try setting up a dynamic spawn in a clean mission and see if it sets things up right. Could be something about the server running a miz before the patch.

On the SPS server, I have been playing on this server recently.

[Muchocracker]

2 hours ago, OUO said:

On the SPS server, I have been playing on this server recently.

Talk to the server admins and have them check the STN's in the hornet DS template.

Edited August 12, 2024 by Muchocracker

[shaji]

Any progress on this? Will we have a fix for the next update? Thanks.