F-111B

[upyr1]

Even though ED has a general rule against what-if modules, I was wondering based on what people know about the TFX program if there might be enough information for an F-111B? I know a lot of the planned systems got recycled into the F-14A however I don't know how long the F-111B program was when it was canceled. I know they were doing carrier trials. Anyway based on how far along the F-111B was if HB were hypothetically to work on an F-111 module would a b model be possible? 

Edited August 3, 2024 by upyr1

[dcn]

8小时前，upyr1说：

Even though ED has a general rule against what-if modules

J-8 PP set a precedent.

[upyr1]

9 hours ago, Silver_Dragon said:

Missing all weapons manual, and actualy not sure if have any flying manual available. The same situation to build a XB-70... have some manual, but the problem has, that is a prototype, no a serial aircraft.

I'd expect that is probably the case. The next question though is we had information from Gruman and General Dynamics that basically said all the systems would be identical to the F-14A and we just needed a different flight model would anyone be interested in the B? 

 

1 hour ago, dcn said:

J-8 PP set a precedent.

I could see ED saying they made an exception due to the lack of 4th gen redfor 

[upyr1]

7 hours ago, Silver_Dragon said:

ED has making a 4th gen redfor aircraft, the Mig-29A

True but that and the JF-17 are the only ones I think would be possible. The JF-17 is an export fighter and NATO has operated the Fulcrum A since the 1990s. The J-8PP would enable us to get a third. 

[upyr1]

8 hours ago, Silver_Dragon said:

The F-111B has a diferent flight model (required build a complete aircraft), and the F-111B has a complete diferent cockpit layout and systems. That is not "copy / paste" the F-14 systems and cockpit (and sure HB has none interest to give your code) and biola, has a F-111B, need build all systems and others features

I always thought the F-14A recycled most if not all of the F-111B's avionics. So at the minimum you would be looking at a new flight model and cockpit. The point to my statement isn't to say that I think it would be easy but to focus what the more important issue which is whether or not the community wants the F-111B ?

Also do you know what documents are available   I don't 

 

[upyr1]

1 hour ago, Silver_Dragon said:

Conversation becomes pointless when it seems like there is only one thought, I'm out.

the conversation is only pointless because you missed the points. The points are the following.

• I wonder if there is interest 
• I wonder if there is enough information 

I asked you about the manual because without the manual anything we say is pure speculation and not enough information for a module. I honestly I wouldn't be shocked if there's not enough information for an F-111B. 

 

 

[draconus]

On 8/4/2024 at 2:18 AM, dcn said:

J-8 PP set a precedent.

It was real aircraft, 2 were produced and tested, manuals were created. Airframe already tested in other versions. Avionics already proven in other aircraft.

[dcn]

8小时前，draconus说：

It was real aircraft, 2 were produced and tested, manuals were created. Airframe already tested in other versions. Avionics already proven in other aircraft.

Of course I knew this.It has never been in service.And don't discuss too much content unrelated to the title.

[upyr1]

14 hours ago, draconus said:

It was real aircraft, 2 were produced and tested, manuals were created. Airframe already tested in other versions. Avionics already proven in other aircraft.

There were 7 F-111Bs and some of the (planned) systems got recycled into the F-14A.  I don't know what manuals are available for the Peace Pearl but I do think ED may have made an exception for it, since its hard to get 4th gen RedFor. I'll state that I posted this in the chit-chat opposed to the wishlist becuse I honestly don't the F-111B would be possible outside of a community module. 

Edited August 6, 2024 by upyr1

[upyr1]

5 hours ago, dcn said:

Of course I knew this.It has never been in service.And don't discuss too much content unrelated to the title.

Now to get things back on topic, if there is enough information about the F-111B to do a module and let's say Heatblur started work on the F-111, would you have any interest in the F-111B? 

[dcn]

2小时前，upyr1说：

would you have any interest in the F-111B?

Sorry I don't know much about the F-111B, it is too heavy as a carrier based aircraft. I am looking forward to the land based version.

Edited August 6, 2024 by dcn

[dcn]

2小时前，upyr1说：

if there is enough information about the F-111B to do a module

I think the answer is yes but I don't think any developer would be willing to do it and ED may not approve it.

[draconus]

F-111 is pretty iconic. I doubt anyone would try to make B version before F and others.

[upyr1]

7 hours ago, draconus said:

F-111 is pretty iconic. I doubt anyone would try to make B version before F and others.

Same. I know really not that interest in the B. I probably wouldn't buy it as a stand alone module but if you had a decent mod I would download it. Though I would have no complaints if someone included the B as part of an F-111 module. I would for obvious reasons expect it to work like a blend of the F-111A and F-14A. If we get an F-111 module I hope it's Heatblur. 

 

[upyr1]

7 hours ago, dcn said:

I think the answer is yes but I don't think any developer would be willing to do it and ED may not approve it.

That's why I wouldn't expect anything but a community mod