Winwing MIP DCS menu problem when the game restarts due to a settings change

[Dudikoff]

Would it be possible that the main menu position can be chosen perhaps (i.e. like left, center or right instead of fixed to the right as it is now)?

The problem I have, for example, is as follows. I have a Winwing MIP configured. So, before starting DCS, I set the MFD configuration via WW's SimApp Pro which updates the viewport lua files and launch DCS.

Now, let's say I change something in the settings, like controls. For some reason, DCS restarts itself every time, even if only the controls were modified (which doesn't happen if you adjust controls while in-flight which makes no sense).

When it restarts itself, it modifies the viewport lua file I guess so it messes up the WinWing monitor setup. What happens when it reloads is that the three MFD screens are treated as part of the main screen I presume and the menu ends up on the rightmost one. So, I have to terminate DCS so that SimApp Pro can update the view lua file.

Now, I cannot get to the menu with my mouse, nor is the exit option in the menu visible on the rightmost MFD.

So, the only option I see on the menu is the top left logout icon. Then it logs you out of DCS and a DCS login screen pops up. This one doesn't have a close option nor does right clicking on it in the taskbar and closing work. So, you have to open a Task Manager and kill the login screen.

Then when you start DCS again, you get the new menu launcher pop up and have to reenter the password again.

So, it's a very tedious process which happens every time a settings change triggers a DCS reload.

I didn't really investigate deeper what happens internally, but IIRC there was a monitor configuration lua file (that I used to edit for TM Cougar MFDs over an extra screen) which seems to be modified by DCS on restart even though no related settings get modified. Perhaps this process can be revised so this DCS reload is not performed in cases where it's not required (e.g. controls change) or if the view/resolution settings were not changed, the lua config for the monitor setup shouldn't be touched?

Edited August 5, 2024 by Dudikoff

[rob10]

Not sure why your DCS is restarting with changes to controller bindings in the main menu.  What setting/which aircraft/window?  I can change settings and it doesn't cause a restart whether done from menu or in game.  Usually it's display settings that cause a restart.  I'd RE-NAME (so you can get your settings back if it doesn't help) your DCS Saved Games file and see if it's still doing it.  Sounds like a config file is corrupted somewhere. 

[Dudikoff]

DCS Main Menu, e.g. F/A-18, a control change causes a reload of DCS on my system.

But in any case, let's say I change something regarding the display settings, I will get into a same problem loop where a DCS will restart and then the menu will get messed up due to the Winwing display config getting messed up by DCS.

Maybe instead of DCS automatically reloading, we could have a popup asking us if we want to reload and if we choose not to, it will say that the changes will only get applied after a restart.

That way we (e.g. Winwing MIP owners that presumably have similar issues) could do all the changes, quit when we're done with all the changes, reapply the Winwing config, start the game.

Edited August 9, 2024 by Dudikoff

[rob10]

 

12 hours ago, Dudikoff said:

DCS Main Menu, e.g. F/A-18, a control change causes a reload of DCS on my system.

But in any case, let's say I change something regarding the display settings, I will get into a same problem loop where a DCS will restart and then the menu will get messed up due to the Winwing display config getting messed up by DCS.

Maybe instead of DCS automatically reloading, we could have a popup asking us if we want to reload and if we choose not to, it will say that the changes will only get applied after a restart.

That way we (e.g. Winwing MIP owners that presumably have similar issues) could do all the changes, quit when we're done with all the changes, reapply the Winwing config, start the game.

I'm actually going to say my comments in my 1st post still stand.  I am running the full 3 WinWing MIP screen set up and run SimAppPro and I've NEVER had it want to restart from changing any F-18 controls.  There are definitely some display settings that do require restart, but I can't remember having many issues with that and WinWing MIP's either.  I won't argue against having an option, but I can see why it would be a low priority to add it.

[Oilman100]

On 8/9/2024 at 10:02 AM, Dudikoff said:

DCS Main Menu, e.g. F/A-18, a control change causes a reload of DCS on my system.

But in any case, let's say I change something regarding the display settings, I will get into a same problem loop where a DCS will restart and then the menu will get messed up due to the Winwing display config getting messed up by DCS.

Maybe instead of DCS automatically reloading, we could have a popup asking us if we want to reload and if we choose not to, it will say that the changes will only get applied after a restart.

That way we (e.g. Winwing MIP owners that presumably have similar issues) could do all the changes, quit when we're done with all the changes, reapply the Winwing config, start the game.

 

I have the same very  annoying issue, let me know if you manage to solve it

[jonsky7]

I dont own the WinWing MIP, or use SimApp pro but I have some questions?

1. Is it necessary to run SimApp? What is it doing for you?

2. Do the displays come on when windows starts? And do they show up in windows display settings?

If the answer to 2. Is yes and yes, you may not even need it at all.

[rob10]

8 hours ago, jonsky7 said:

I dont own the WinWing MIP, or use SimApp pro but I have some questions?

1. Is it necessary to run SimApp? What is it doing for you?

SimAppPro allows you to keep the lights on your throttle (i.e. A-G mode or A-A mode) or other parts of your hardware synchronized with the in-game setting.  It's also required for any of the vibration effects on some of the joysticks.

[jonsky7]

1 hour ago, rob10 said:

SimAppPro allows you to keep the lights on your throttle (i.e. A-G mode or A-A mode) or other parts of your hardware synchronized with the in-game setting.  It's also required for any of the vibration effects on some of the joysticks.

And does it do anything with the displays?

[QbanRambo]

Any update on this? I have same problem. Any time I need to change any options in game, DCS restarts and load wrong screen configuration. Need to quit DCS, open SimApp and apply screen once again. Very ANNOYING!