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Greetings,

I have tried multiple times to install the new update (2.9.8.1107), however each time that I finish the update I get log data. It is below.

00000.192 --- Log file: C:\Users\secur\Saved Games\DCS World OpenBeta\autoupdate_log.txt
00000.000 === Log opened UTC 2024-09-30 22:35:16
00000.038 INFO : DCS_Updater/2.17.1.4 (Windows NT 10.0.22631; Win64; en-US)
00000.038 INFO : src-id: eb7967df909cd6f4702cc6ada45298e5f2f5ebe0, lib-id: b88ea51ae2210987a3865f77cc1802548216d7a8
00000.041 INFO : cmdline: "C:\Users\secur\Saved Games\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\DCS_updater.exe" --quiet apply 1048dc11-e31f-426b-a045-11a49a149a99 35992
00000.108 STATUS: Initializing...
00000.187 INFO : basedir: C:\Users\secur\Saved Games\DCS World OpenBeta
00000.187 INFO : variant: openbeta
00000.191 INFO : Command: update 2.9.8.1107
00000.193 INFO : DCS/2.9.7.59263 (x86_64; EN;  WORLD,UH-1H,P-51D,MIG-21BIS,RAZBAM_AV8BNA,F-16C,FA-18C,SU-33,F-15C,HEATBLUR_F-14,MARIANAISLANDS_terrain,SUPERCARRIER,CAUCASUS_terrain,A-10A,AJS37,A-10C,A-10C_2,AH-64D,RAZBAM_F-15E,PERSIANGULF_terrain,SU-27,BALTICDRAGON_FA18C_RAVEN_ONE_campaign,HEATBLUR_F-4E)
00000.193 INFO : branch: openbeta
00000.194 STATUS: Downloading version info...
00000.876 STATUS: Verifying installed files...
00024.063 INFO : 0 files are changed or missing.
00025.991 STATUS: Preparing download...
00026.616 STATUS: Checking downloads...
00027.741 STATUS: Scanning existing files...
00027.768 INFO : To download: 0 bytes in 0 files
00027.769 STATUS: Searching for local copies...
00027.797 INFO : Found 1 local source(s).
00027.797 INFO : Local source: c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\DCSWorld\
00027.797 INFO : To copy from local: 0 bytes in 0 files
00027.849 INFO : To download: 0 bytes in 0 files
00027.955 STATUS: Removing obsolete files...
00028.265 ERROR: Can't delete C:\Users\secur\Saved Games\DCS World OpenBeta\bin-mt/edCore.dll: (5) Access is denied.
00028.265 INFO : Sleeping for 0.100000 seconds...
00028.378 ERROR: Can't delete C:\Users\secur\Saved Games\DCS World OpenBeta\bin-mt/edCore.dll: (5) Access is denied.
00028.378 STATUS: Got CANCEL when asked to retry: Can't delete C:\Users\secur\Saved Games\DCS World OpenBeta\bin-mt/edCore.dll: (5) Access is denied.
00028.386 STATUS: Can't delete C:\Users\secur\Saved Games\DCS World OpenBeta\bin-mt/edCore.dll: (5) Access is denied.
00028.478 === Log closed.

I have tried running repairs, cleanups, uninstalling all mods, and using different shortcuts. It happens using both the launcher to update and the dcs updater app. I also do have enough space (barely) on my drive to install the update. I do have the openbeta version installed, though the unified version was released a while ago so maybe that is an issue.

Thank you in advance for any help.

 

Modules Owned:

F-4E, F/A-18C, F-16C, F-14A/B, AJS-37, AH-64D, A-10C II, A-10A, F-15C, Su-27, Marianas, MiG-21, P-51, Supercarrier, Su-33, UH-1H, AV-8B, Persian Gulf Map

Computer Specifications:  

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 | VKB Gladiator NXT, TWCS Throttle

 

Posted
20 minutes ago, xxcosmicggxx said:

Access is denied.

 

sounds like Antivirus interference .. add a folder exclusion on your AV configuration and exclude the whole DCS folder: "C:\Users\secur\Saved Games\DCS World OpenBeta"

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Posted

@xxcosmicggxx, add an exclusion for the DCS installation directory as well.

What is really really weird is that it is showing those directories in your Saved Games folder as well. For example:
 

"Can't delete C:\Users\secur\Saved Games\DCS World OpenBeta\bin-mt/edCore.dll:"

Can you post a screenshot of your "C:\Users\secur\Saved Games" directory. It should not have the game installation folder in there.

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Posted (edited)

Those files that is says can't be deleted should be in your C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\Steamapps\Common\DCSWorld\ folder for the main program, not sure how they have ended up in your Saved Games folder. Have you ever manually copied them across or installed Steam to the Saved Games folder, or changed any of the directories associated with Steam?

Check to make sure bin-mt/edCore.dll is in the correct location as well: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\Steamapps\Common\DCSWorld\Bin-MT

Also not sure what DCS_updater.exe is doing on your system, let alone in your Saved Games folder as that's the Standalone updater, Steam managed all the updates. Have to previously tried doing a repair or something using that off the ED site or had Standalone installed?

Also your Saved Games folder name is wrong, Steam sets it as Saved Games\DCS.

If you left Steam at default to start with Windows, open Task Manager and disable it, or go into Steam/Settings/Interface and half way down there's the option to start Steam with Windows, just disable it and reboot the system.

After reboot see if you can manually delete the files out of Saved Games directory, as in edCore.dll and DCS_updater.exe or even see if you can rename them. You can also try to force delete the files, click on the file in question and press Shift + Delete, failing that it's command line to force delete it.  

Run a repair through Steam as well of the properties menu, not using the DCS_updater.exe.

Edited by TKhaos
Posted
2 hours ago, TKhaos said:

Also not sure what DCS_updater.exe is doing on your system, let alone in your Saved Games folder as that's the Standalone updater, Steam managed all the updates. Have to previously tried doing a repair or something using that off the ED site or had Standalone installed?

Pretty sure he has both Steam version and Standalone "OpenBeta" installed. And OB folders were either moved, or he initially installed in Saved Gamea. Hence my question. Steam version might have been updated first, as the Standalone version is trying to pull updates from it. And that's the only reference to Steam in the log file. Clearly Standalone has been installed at some point. 

 

2 hours ago, TKhaos said:

Also your Saved Games folder name is wrong, Steam sets it as Saved Games\DCS.

Not quite true. Steam uses the same Saved Games folder as Standalone, and again clearly Standalone has been installed at some point, because DCS World OpenBeta is the default Standalone OpenBeta installation folder. Usually under C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics.

@xxcosmicggxx, drag the WHOLE DCS World OpenBeta folder back to the path above. Make a choice between Steam and Standalone, (perhaps depending  on where you bought the modules). If you don't want the Steam Launcher. Just open Steam and uninstall DCS. You will save space. When you have dragged the folder back to its correct place. Do a full repair and then you should be good to update. This is just a wild hunch unless something else is going on. 😊 

Posted

@MAXsenna, thanks for the input. When I first installed DCS I installed it through steam, a short while after that I installed it through standalone and uninstalled it on steam. My initial standalone version was stable and a little while after I switched to openbeta. I have used only standalone for about a year and a half, and it’s always worked so not sure why all of a sudden this happened. One thing is that the first time I attempted installing the update, it said things about F-4 files being not needed and a lot of other files.

I gotta get to sleep, so I’ll try what you said tomorrow. But as I said above, I’ve never had any issues like this before, and I’ve had it installed like this for about 2 years. It seemed really weird the first time it happened.

@sleighzy @Rudel_chw I also have never had issues with dcs and antivirus. I’ll definitely make sure DCS is not having issues with antivirus though once I get to checking it tomorrow. Thanks for the assistance.
 

@TKhaos Thanks for the input as well. I’ll try what you said tomorrow like I told the other people. A potential reason that the saved games folder is like that is I have installed games from Xbox and steam in that location in the past.

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Modules Owned:

F-4E, F/A-18C, F-16C, F-14A/B, AJS-37, AH-64D, A-10C II, A-10A, F-15C, Su-27, Marianas, MiG-21, P-51, Supercarrier, Su-33, UH-1H, AV-8B, Persian Gulf Map

Computer Specifications:  

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 | VKB Gladiator NXT, TWCS Throttle

 

Posted (edited)

null@sleighzy, I've attached a screenshot of the directory. image.png

@MAXsenna, I moved the folder to the location and repaired, I attempted to update again but it still came up with different error logs.

00000.193 --- Log file: C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\autoupdate_log.txt
00000.000 === Log opened UTC 2024-10-01 18:16:40
00000.038 INFO : DCS_Updater/2.17.1.4 (Windows NT 10.0.22631; Win64; en-US)
00000.039 INFO : src-id: eb7967df909cd6f4702cc6ada45298e5f2f5ebe0, lib-id: b88ea51ae2210987a3865f77cc1802548216d7a8
00000.041 INFO : cmdline: "C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\DCS_updater.exe" --quiet apply 60e98a15-1df7-4742-8626-782c203f17a6 35432
00000.108 STATUS: Initializing...
00000.187 INFO : basedir: C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta
00000.188 INFO : variant: openbeta
00000.192 INFO : Command: update 2.9.8.1107
00000.194 INFO : DCS/2.9.7.59263 (x86_64; EN;  WORLD,UH-1H,P-51D,MIG-21BIS,RAZBAM_AV8BNA,F-16C,FA-18C,SU-33,F-15C,HEATBLUR_F-14,MARIANAISLANDS_terrain,SUPERCARRIER,CAUCASUS_terrain,A-10A,AJS37,A-10C,A-10C_2,AH-64D,RAZBAM_F-15E,PERSIANGULF_terrain,SU-27,BALTICDRAGON_FA18C_RAVEN_ONE_campaign,HEATBLUR_F-4E)
00000.194 INFO : branch: openbeta
00000.195 STATUS: Downloading version info...
00000.807 STATUS: Verifying installed files...
00020.142 INFO : 0 files are changed or missing.
00022.020 STATUS: Preparing download...
00022.635 STATUS: Checking downloads...
00023.696 STATUS: Scanning existing files...
00023.726 INFO : To download: 0 bytes in 0 files
00023.727 STATUS: Searching for local copies...
00023.753 INFO : Found 1 local source(s).
00023.753 INFO : Local source: c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\DCSWorld\
00023.753 INFO : To copy from local: 0 bytes in 0 files
00023.804 INFO : To download: 0 bytes in 0 files
00023.907 STATUS: Removing obsolete files...
00024.205 ERROR: Can't delete C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin-mt/edCore.dll: (5) Access is denied.
00024.205 INFO : Sleeping for 0.100000 seconds...
00024.312 ERROR: Can't delete C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin-mt/edCore.dll: (5) Access is denied.
00024.312 STATUS: Got CANCEL when asked to retry: Can't delete C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin-mt/edCore.dll: (5) Access is denied.
00024.319 STATUS: Can't delete C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin-mt/edCore.dll: (5) Access is denied.
00024.419 === Log closed.

 

Edited by xxcosmicggxx
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Modules Owned:

F-4E, F/A-18C, F-16C, F-14A/B, AJS-37, AH-64D, A-10C II, A-10A, F-15C, Su-27, Marianas, MiG-21, P-51, Supercarrier, Su-33, UH-1H, AV-8B, Persian Gulf Map

Computer Specifications:  

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 | VKB Gladiator NXT, TWCS Throttle

 

Posted (edited)

@xxcosmicggxx It does look way better though. Do you have DCS still installed in Steam? DCS or the registry at least believes it I guess.
My hunch now, is that the the access rights to the Eagle Dynamics folder do not match the user you are logged into, your Windows user. If you take ownership of the Eagle Dynamics folder, or create a drive:\Games folder, and exclude it in AV. Then just move the whole Eagle Dynamics structure there, and try another repair. Might still need to apply ownership rights, if you get the same issue. (Program Files is a system folder, and sometimes needs admin rights. You don't wanna mess with that).

Saved Games looks good.

Edited by MAXsenna
Posted

@MAXsennaI do not have DCS installed in steam. I've not had it installed in steam for a very long time. I'll do what you said and see how it goes.

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Modules Owned:

F-4E, F/A-18C, F-16C, F-14A/B, AJS-37, AH-64D, A-10C II, A-10A, F-15C, Su-27, Marianas, MiG-21, P-51, Supercarrier, Su-33, UH-1H, AV-8B, Persian Gulf Map

Computer Specifications:  

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 | VKB Gladiator NXT, TWCS Throttle

 

Posted
Just now, xxcosmicggxx said:

@MAXsennaI do not have DCS installed in steam. I've not had it installed in steam for a very long time. I'll do what you said and see how it goes.

Yeah, I guess it's just in the Registry then, as the Updater tries to find files there. Doesn't matter.😉

Posted

I just attempted the repair, it states that all of the files in the new eagle dynamics directory are "not needed for the current operation". Should I delete these?

Modules Owned:

F-4E, F/A-18C, F-16C, F-14A/B, AJS-37, AH-64D, A-10C II, A-10A, F-15C, Su-27, Marianas, MiG-21, P-51, Supercarrier, Su-33, UH-1H, AV-8B, Persian Gulf Map

Computer Specifications:  

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 | VKB Gladiator NXT, TWCS Throttle

 

Posted
2 minutes ago, xxcosmicggxx said:

I just attempted the repair, it states that all of the files in the new eagle dynamics directory are "not needed for the current operation". Should I delete these?

Screenshot?

Posted

image.png

Modules Owned:

F-4E, F/A-18C, F-16C, F-14A/B, AJS-37, AH-64D, A-10C II, A-10A, F-15C, Su-27, Marianas, MiG-21, P-51, Supercarrier, Su-33, UH-1H, AV-8B, Persian Gulf Map

Computer Specifications:  

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 | VKB Gladiator NXT, TWCS Throttle

 

Posted (edited)
30 minutes ago, xxcosmicggxx said:

image.png

Ah! YES! Remove those. They are probably old!

image.png

 

You have two Eagle Dynamics folders nested. Rename the first one to Games or something, so it's less cluttered. 😉

OpenBeta doesn't exit anymore. Want to clean that up as well? After everything's working of course. 🤞🏻

Edited by MAXsenna
Posted (edited)

Unfortunately I got no luck doing that and updating, it still came up with logs, they are very long for some reason compared to the other ones

 

Edited by xxcosmicggxx
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Modules Owned:

F-4E, F/A-18C, F-16C, F-14A/B, AJS-37, AH-64D, A-10C II, A-10A, F-15C, Su-27, Marianas, MiG-21, P-51, Supercarrier, Su-33, UH-1H, AV-8B, Persian Gulf Map

Computer Specifications:  

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 | VKB Gladiator NXT, TWCS Throttle

 

Posted

image.pngimage.pngimage.pngThese are new screenshots of my directories in case I've done something wrong. Not sure why but my DCS.openbeta directory in saved games is very different than usual.

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Modules Owned:

F-4E, F/A-18C, F-16C, F-14A/B, AJS-37, AH-64D, A-10C II, A-10A, F-15C, Su-27, Marianas, MiG-21, P-51, Supercarrier, Su-33, UH-1H, AV-8B, Persian Gulf Map

Computer Specifications:  

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 | VKB Gladiator NXT, TWCS Throttle

 

Posted

Aha! This could be the culprit. You had a crash, Windows probably. This "locks" DCS. Maybe even the updater. Delete that file.

 image.png

You know what. Rename DCS.openbeta to DCS.openbeta_old as a backup in Saved Games, and start fresh

Little redundant and hard on my eyes. It's up to you though. 😉
Doesn't really matter as DCS is pretty portable.

 

image.png

Posted (edited)

No luck once again with the update.image.pngI did change the launcher to DCS.openbeta_old and repaired then updated, still didn't fix anything.image.png

Edited by xxcosmicggxx

Modules Owned:

F-4E, F/A-18C, F-16C, F-14A/B, AJS-37, AH-64D, A-10C II, A-10A, F-15C, Su-27, Marianas, MiG-21, P-51, Supercarrier, Su-33, UH-1H, AV-8B, Persian Gulf Map

Computer Specifications:  

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 | VKB Gladiator NXT, TWCS Throttle

 

Posted
4 minutes ago, xxcosmicggxx said:

No luck once again with the update

What are the new log files that were created in the Logs directory of the new Saved Games folder? Drop them here for further review in case the problem is different, or still the same.

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Posted

All log files are attached.

dcs.log dcs.log.old cef_log.log

Modules Owned:

F-4E, F/A-18C, F-16C, F-14A/B, AJS-37, AH-64D, A-10C II, A-10A, F-15C, Su-27, Marianas, MiG-21, P-51, Supercarrier, Su-33, UH-1H, AV-8B, Persian Gulf Map

Computer Specifications:  

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 | VKB Gladiator NXT, TWCS Throttle

 

Posted (edited)

I ran it again, no new log files were created in the directory so those might be the right ones, the text from the update logs is below though.

00000.177 --- Log file: C:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\autoupdate_log.txt
00000.000 === Log opened UTC 2024-10-01 20:32:16
00000.024 INFO : DCS_Updater/2.17.1.4 (Windows NT 10.0.22631; Win64; en-US)
00000.024 INFO : src-id: eb7967df909cd6f4702cc6ada45298e5f2f5ebe0, lib-id: b88ea51ae2210987a3865f77cc1802548216d7a8
00000.026 INFO : cmdline: "C:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\DCS_updater.exe" --quiet apply e3b98f1c-fee6-450a-8689-1fdfa4aff6bd 15740
00000.091 STATUS: Initializing...
00000.171 INFO : basedir: C:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta
00000.171 INFO : variant: openbeta
00000.176 INFO : Command: update 2.9.8.1107
00000.177 INFO : DCS/2.9.7.59263 (x86_64; EN;  WORLD,UH-1H,P-51D,MIG-21BIS,RAZBAM_AV8BNA,F-16C,FA-18C,SU-33,F-15C,HEATBLUR_F-14,MARIANAISLANDS_terrain,SUPERCARRIER,CAUCASUS_terrain,A-10A,AJS37,A-10C,A-10C_2,AH-64D,RAZBAM_F-15E,PERSIANGULF_terrain,SU-27,BALTICDRAGON_FA18C_RAVEN_ONE_campaign,HEATBLUR_F-4E)
00000.177 INFO : branch: openbeta
00000.178 STATUS: Downloading version info...
00000.826 STATUS: Verifying installed files...
00021.649 INFO : 0 files are changed or missing.
00023.641 STATUS: Preparing download...
00024.346 STATUS: Checking downloads...
00025.400 STATUS: Scanning existing files...
00025.427 INFO : To download: 0 bytes in 0 files
00025.427 STATUS: Searching for local copies...
00025.455 INFO : Found 1 local source(s).
00025.455 INFO : Local source: c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\DCSWorld\
00025.455 INFO : To copy from local: 0 bytes in 0 files
00025.507 INFO : To download: 0 bytes in 0 files
00025.612 STATUS: Removing obsolete files...
00025.930 ERROR: Can't delete C:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin-mt/edCore.dll: (5) Access is denied.
00025.930 INFO : Sleeping for 0.100000 seconds...
00026.041 ERROR: Can't delete C:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin-mt/edCore.dll: (5) Access is denied.
00026.041 STATUS: Got CANCEL when asked to retry: Can't delete C:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin-mt/edCore.dll: (5) Access is denied.
00026.048 STATUS: Can't delete C:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin-mt/edCore.dll: (5) Access is denied.
00026.133 === Log closed.

It seems similar to the other ones to me, but I don't know anything about logs so I'm probably wrong.

 

Edited by xxcosmicggxx

Modules Owned:

F-4E, F/A-18C, F-16C, F-14A/B, AJS-37, AH-64D, A-10C II, A-10A, F-15C, Su-27, Marianas, MiG-21, P-51, Supercarrier, Su-33, UH-1H, AV-8B, Persian Gulf Map

Computer Specifications:  

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 | VKB Gladiator NXT, TWCS Throttle

 

Posted

Even after the exclusions and repair? Your DCS directories aren't owned by the administrator or anything and can't be written to?

This is still confusing to me as well and should be resolved: " Local source: c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\DCSWorld\"

Is this via the new launcher, or running the dcs_updater.exe file within the bin directory? What happens if from the commandline you run the bin\DCS_updater.exe manually?

AMD 7800x3D, 4080Super, 64Gb DDR5 RAM, 4Tb NVMe M.2, Quest 2

Posted

@sleighzyI've excluded every folder or file that I know of related to DCS and its install. I've also repaired multiple times. I have reviewed the ownership as well, they are all owned by me.

It is via the launcher. I attempted to update via commandline, it comes up with an error.image.png

There is a log of the update. It is attached.

autoupdate_log.txt

Modules Owned:

F-4E, F/A-18C, F-16C, F-14A/B, AJS-37, AH-64D, A-10C II, A-10A, F-15C, Su-27, Marianas, MiG-21, P-51, Supercarrier, Su-33, UH-1H, AV-8B, Persian Gulf Map

Computer Specifications:  

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 | VKB Gladiator NXT, TWCS Throttle

 

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