VPN help

[Ghostmaker]

I joined a few lads feom yputube the other day on multiplayer. For the fist time. Had a great time. However i want a vpn. Is the advisory for online with dcs? If so which is the best / easiest to use

[MAXsenna]

4 minutes ago, Ghostmaker said:

I joined a few lads feom yputube the other day on multiplayer. For the fist time. Had a great time. However i want a vsn. Is the advisory for online with dcs? If so which is the best / easiest to use

What exactly are you asking? Where you can find, which VSN mod to use? 

[Ghostmaker]

Sorry phone wrote vsn... meant to be VPN

[MAXsenna]

7 minutes ago, Ghostmaker said:

Sorry phone wrote vsn... meant to be VPN

Ah! Now it makes sense. Thanks!

What do you need it for? I ask, because it does add another layer and extra hops. While some users need it due to their ISP setup.

Edit: You might wanna edit the header. 

Edited October 9, 2024 by MAXsenna

[Ghostmaker]

Dont think i can change it from my mobile 

58 minutes ago, MAXsenna said:

Ah! Now it makes sense. Thanks!

What do you need it for? I ask, because it does add another layer and extra hops. While some users need it due to their ISP setup.

Edit: You might wanna edit the header. 

 

When i went on multiplayer the other day i had to approve going onto the server for the network. The server was somewhere like indenisia 

Edited October 9, 2024 by Ghostmaker

[Ghostmaker]

@BIGNEWY

Can the heading of this thread be changed? To VPN help? It wont let me my end

[BIGNEWY]

1 hour ago, Ghostmaker said:

@BIGNEWY

Can the heading of this thread be changed? To VPN help? It wont let me my end

done

Have you tried contacting your internet service provider? they may be creating issues for you connecting normally. 

[Ghostmaker]

13 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

done

Have you tried contacting your internet service provider? they may be creating issues for you connecting normally. 

Im not 100% sure how it all works as online is new to me for DCS. I was talking to the guys off youtube and we wanted to do some carrier landings together and i joined a server with them the dcs multiplayer. What will my service provider be doing  to create issues/ how will i know if they are? I was under the impression that using a vpn is a must for protecting your 

Self when on here? Please correct me if im wrong 

[MAXsenna]

Im not 100% sure how it all works as online is new to me for DCS. I was talking to the guys off youtube and we wanted to do some carrier landings together and i joined a server with them the dcs multiplayer. What will my service provider be doing  to create issues/ how will i know if they are? I was under the impression that using a vpn is a must for protecting your 
Self when on here? Please correct me if im wrong 

Protecting what exactly? Are you afraid your ISP is gonna sniff the packets you send the DCS server? To discover what exactly?

TLDR: VPN might not be as secure you think it is. Read.


Hopefully you are using HTTPS for all your online activities already, like this forum, email, bank activities, other social media and such. If you don't trust your ISP and are afraid they log where you connect, and in some cases what you do. Pirating, porn bla bla. You might want to use a VPN, but are you sure that the VPN provider won't log the exact same traffic? NordVPN got busted for that a few years back. To hide your activities you might as well use Tor. It's free.
One nice thing about VPN, is that you can "trick" the system into believing the exit point is in another location/region for watching local TV, regionalised Netflix, Prime etc. Tor can do that too.
Some users here needs to use VPN to get faster connections to DCS servers because their ISP hasn't configured their infrastructure correctly.
In short words. If you not really now what VPN, Virtual Private Network, is. It will just give you a false sense of security. It seems to me you don't really know what you actually are trying to secure/accomplish. It's not rocket science. Just read a little about it.
Cheers!

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[BIGNEWY]

I assumed you were having connection issues and that was the reason for wanting a vpn. 

If you can connect to DCS and play online in multiplayer already I wouldnt worry about a VPN. 

If you really want to protect your IP you can use a vpn but it seems a little over protective for just playing online.

I use PIA VPN personally for public networks, like when I am away from home on my mobile or public wifi. 

[Ghostmaker]

4 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

I assumed you were having connection issues and that was the reason for wanting a vpn. 

If you can connect to DCS and play online in multiplayer already I wouldnt worry about a VPN. 

If you really want to protect your IP you can use a vpn but it seems a little over protective for just playing online.

I use PIA VPN personally for public networks, like when I am away from home on my mobile or public wifi. 

Ah ok. No i wasnt having any connection issues, i thought that unless on a fox 3 server or an unknown server you would need a vpn to protect your network from any outsiders looking in. If i go onto multiplayer are there not classed as public networks? 

[BIGNEWY]

your firewall protects your pc, you connect to the server and your ip is used as the address the server sends and receives data from on the port set by the server. It does not allow access to your pc or its files. 

Generally its not something people worry about if you are at home.

The truth is in this day and age, no matter where you are or what network you are on if someone with the skill set wants to infiltrate your network they probably can, but you would need to be very unlucky or they would have a reason for targeting you. 

 

 

[MAXsenna]

Ah ok. No i wasnt having any connection issues, i thought that unless on a fox 3 server or an unknown server you would need a vpn to protect your network from any outsiders looking in. If i go onto multiplayer are there not classed as public networks? 

Classified as to "be" on a public network. The Internet. But they are also behind firewalls, with only the necessary ports open for DCS and remote management to work.
Like BigN writes. Your firewall protects your private network.
Like I wrote. Virtual Private Network. Kind of misleading for a lot of users. It will setup a virtual private tunnel, (connection), between your computer to the VPN host. When the connection exit the VPN provider, it's not private anymore while your traffic is masked as originating from the VPN host. It can still be intercepted, but it will look like it came from the VPN host. And if an un-encrypted email sendt through the VPN is intercepted with all your bank accounts, credit card info, passwords etc. It's not protected at all. And your name might even be in the email address.
Not to worry. Most people have no clue what VPN is, while they're still paying for it. Because of "security"...

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[Ghostmaker]

So basically. If you play dcs through the multiplayer you do not need VPN? Im still learning al of this

If your fire wall.

When i went onto the dcs multiplayer the other day to practice carrier landings with the guys online i had a acreen notification come up that i had to click before proceeding/ possibly a security message. I cant remeber what it said now but disnt know if this was normal

[MAXsenna]

16 minutes ago, Ghostmaker said:

So basically. If you play dcs through the multiplayer you do not need VPN? Im still learning al of this

Only if for some reason you get connection problems. I don't think you do. It it was a requirement, it would be specified. 

18 minutes ago, Ghostmaker said:

When i went onto the dcs multiplayer the other day to practice carrier landings with the guys online i had a acreen notification come up that i had to click before proceeding/ possibly a security message. I cant remeber what it said now but disnt know if this was normal

Screenshot next time. It for sure didn't mention VPN.

[Ghostmaker]

Yeah i will if i cones up. I think i had to give permission for dcs or my network to enter that server. Ill have a look if it comes up again. 

[MAXsenna]

Yeah i will if i cones up. I think i had to give permission for dcs or my network to enter that server. Ill have a look if it comes up again. 

Oh, you mean the Windows firewall message that asks you if the app is allowed on local/domain/public networks?
Gotcha! It probably won't come up again, and you're all set!

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[Ghostmaker]

3 minutes ago, MAXsenna said:

Oh, you mean the Windows firewall message that asks you if the app is allowed on local/domain/public networks?
Gotcha! It probably won't come up again, and you're all set!

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It may have been, i was so excited to gwt online with the guys it was clicked lol. Then thought ohhhh. Sh** what did i press haha. Im usually hot on this stuff

[BitMaster]

I don't think, even if it was for whatever reason demanded, it would work since you add a lot of rubber band. Definitely not what you need for a Jet Sim.

 

VPN's isolate your traffic from the rest of the network they are flowing in with the following idea behind it:  Keep your data packets encrypted and thus invisible for bored router admins or any attacker along the way. A common scenario is HomeOffice -->VPN -->Company  or  Internetcafe--> VPN-->www. If you would not use any sort of encryption anyone could read the traffic between your homeoffice-desktop and the company server while working from home ( easy explanation to keep it simple ) or read your traffic while you surf the net via public hotspot ( untrusted infrastructure ).

You can also use VPN and a Proxy together to hide your identity, but that is a different use case of VPN where VPN encrypts the data and large ( the larger the better ) proxies randomize your traces....something I would not trust if I had something serious to hide, but that is another topic all together.

Fact is, VPN is a burden, adds lag and complexity, only use it when you need it and FPS or latency sensitive games in general will suffer from the added latency.

 

I use 3 different VPN's for my work when I connect to other companies and each of them has it's + & - in what it can do, what it demands and if it is for free or licensed, using all variants

and none adds no latency and tbh, it's not bad if you know some networking if you deal with them daily.