jackd Posted October 12, 2024 Posted October 12, 2024 Just been chasing a P51 in some default mission, On my 4k acer gaming monitor the opponent is very hard to spot and there fore i keep losing track. Is there generally a way to improve it's visibility? I have a NVIDIA 4080s GPU.
Gunfreak Posted October 12, 2024 Posted October 12, 2024 Nope. for some reason DCS has made it very hard to spot anything visual from a certain distance. Colour, shape etc just get lost. Other ww2 sims dosnt have that problem at all. It's the same in none ww2 DCS. But aircraft are somewhat larger. They often spew out flares, they use afterburner and you have radar. But the same applies. Colour and shape just get lost once the enemy is a certain distance away. i7 13700k @5.2ghz, GTX 3090, 64Gig ram 4800mhz DDR5, M2 drive.
jackd Posted October 12, 2024 Author Posted October 12, 2024 alas, i am used to IL2, it's OK there ... 1
Gunfreak Posted October 12, 2024 Posted October 12, 2024 (edited) 5 hours ago, jackd said: alas, i am used to IL2, it's OK there ... Same with the other ww2 sim. There you can see the yellow noses from far away even in VR. But in DCS units disappear into this "shadow" the swallows up colour and detail from just a few hundred meters. So anything except formation flying wil remove the details on the aircraft. Why ED never has done anything about this I don't know. Edited October 13, 2024 by Gunfreak 1 i7 13700k @5.2ghz, GTX 3090, 64Gig ram 4800mhz DDR5, M2 drive.
jackd Posted October 13, 2024 Author Posted October 13, 2024 any mods available for that? could be very useful, maybe for 4k monitor users only?
Gunfreak Posted October 13, 2024 Posted October 13, 2024 3 minutes ago, jackd said: any mods available for that? could be very useful, maybe for 4k monitor users only? Nope. Nothing to be done. You'll get better at it. But it will never as good as other sims. i7 13700k @5.2ghz, GTX 3090, 64Gig ram 4800mhz DDR5, M2 drive.
OLD CROW Posted October 14, 2024 Posted October 14, 2024 14 hours ago, jackd said: any mods available for that? could be very useful, maybe for 4k monitor users only? Give it a chance. It's the best I've tested, also you will see a color improvement in your brand new 4k monitor. And the most important: it does its job If you feel uncomfortable with this solution otherwise you're thinking you're a kind of cheater then just turn on the black generic dot label in SP missions or campaigns. Spotting has been an endemic DCS issue for a long time I can't even remember. You can barely spot a B-17 or a Ju-88 in the default DCS grey and foggy atmosphere so imagine spotting a 109 o an I-16... With modern fighters most people have no problem on this: you lost 99% of time monitoring your MFD's and RWR's gaugages so lock and shoot your BVR missiles and run away, but in a fully visual SA enviroment you need a similar spotting clearness as AI opponents got on you. Remember the mantra: First to spot first to kill... and in the WW2 you're eye spotting was the one and only weapon you got in your own arsenal to do that. Another possible solution could be lowering you're ingame monitor resolution: lower resolutions= bigger pixels, but I think you would upset with this solution due you probably had bought this 4k monitor for any visual reason better than playing sims as you were back in 90's. The main issue in DCS is the LOD transition from a single black dot to a complex model. It's paradoxal that most times you should mantain a zoom out level just to keep the visual on that pixel, otherwise you can loose it as soon as you zoom in it. Also it's really hard to spot from above ( the natural position in a WW2 situation). There's no depth sensation between other traffics and the background, even in VR. There's no volumetric difference in traffics and background, so best way spotting anything is from below to above (I know it's nuts). You can see a pixel contrasting against the sky better than against millions of ground pixels. The only situations you can spot them better from above is when they're flying over the clouds or over the sea. Maybe once they introduce raytracing or any AI visual new tech spotting would improve, but.... in the future!!!! (try to don't loose your eyesight meanwhile searching for pixels). 1 1 A simple Human being's Passion [YOUTUBE] [/YOUTUBE]
OLD CROW Posted October 14, 2024 Posted October 14, 2024 8 hours ago, jackd said: You nailed the song.... even more!!! You've spotted it!!!! Here you have an example of what I explained before 1 A simple Human being's Passion [YOUTUBE] [/YOUTUBE]
jackd Posted October 15, 2024 Author Posted October 15, 2024 (edited) Well, in IL2 this business looks far far better, here the boogie man seems to disappear even in close range as wth my 4k monitor. Definitely this spotting system needs an overhaul!! Edited October 15, 2024 by jackd 1
MAXsenna Posted October 15, 2024 Posted October 15, 2024 Does he dance? I assume that's the difference between a boggieman and the boogeyman. Because the boogeyman is a real bugger.
Bowie Posted October 22, 2024 Posted October 22, 2024 On 10/12/2024 at 7:19 AM, jackd said: Just been chasing a P51 in some default mission, On my 4k acer gaming monitor the opponent is very hard to spot and there fore i keep losing track. Is there generally a way to improve it's visibility? I have a NVIDIA 4080s GPU. A P-51D Cockpit that Looks and Feels... Right. Bowie
jackd Posted December 28, 2024 Author Posted December 28, 2024 Added, tested the 109 again yesterday extensively. With the new spotting it still seems quite hard to hit a p51 in a dog fight situation. I can't .... Guess WW2 in DCS is not as well developed compared to the more modern jet planes. In IL2 great battles it's a lot more gaming fun, but that might be due the specialism in regards to WW2 planes.
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