i.a.r.-93/j-22 orao

[john_X]

for galeb you have 2 pay me:lol:, since i'm romanian, galeb is not in RoAF inventory..iar-99 has more chances to be donebut even it has to wait because i want the second one to be rafale.

[john_X]

i finished the airbrakes, finished with the back wings, they can move now, and added the hole for the guns.minor details left to do...

 

 

p.s. the tail vertical wing modified..

Edited January 23, 2018 by john_X

[Kuky]

progress good... er one more note, that pointy nose... whatchamightcallit... is bent but should be straight. I guess you're gonna fix that just don't know why it looks bent downwards on the photo, also inner wing pylon has bit different shape then outer one and is more curved.

[john_X]

its a bit difficult with the 2 plans for a singular plane developed by 2 countries that gave it particular details each...i have the plans of the iar-93 and it has that pointy nose bent...now, i see that ex Yugoslavian AF added a straight one...i'll keep rom 1.about the pylons..i don't have a good angle to see exactly how it looks.if you can help me i apreciate it

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

By hajduk_veljko, shot with E950 at 2008-06-03

[shaggy]

Its a sad sight, i like the weathering of it though :D

How come the Romanian Air Force keeps all their airframes? i ahev seen pictures of Mig-23´s and Mig-29´s in the same shape.

[john_X]

what can i say...evrything happenin in romania is sad.the air force is better called grounded force.only 48 migs(lancers) and 24 iar-99 still flyin, all of them in a bad shape, ready to join the iar-93s cementery.the good days of the military flight have lapsed long time ago when we passed from comunism 2 capitalism; capitalism that brought the freedom, freedom to steal the funds for everything, including the ones 4 maintaining iar-93 fleet that was in '98(year of retireing) at its midlife time.again, sad.don't look at those pics anymore.try the ones from INCAS.

 

 

http://www.incas.ro/english/index_eng.html

[shaggy]

Thank you for clarification and thanks for the much more nice pictures.

 

BW

Shaggy

[Dany90]

this is what i'm workin now. it's not a very popular plane, but i hope that my serbian neighbours will apreciate it. it will have skins for both countries and i think it will replace the su-25 bmber...

 

Nice model :thumbup: but its too high poly, you should forget about subdivision tools like mesh smooth you can make a great model with less than 20000 polys, my berkut has 13000 polys and the model is finished.

I have an IAR-99 under construction too :D

Edited June 2, 2009 by Dany90

[Dany90]

Its a sad sight, i like the weathering of it though :D

How come the Romanian Air Force keeps all their airframes? i ahev seen pictures of Mig-23´s and Mig-29´s in the same shape.

 

Even the first romanian supersonic plane project was canceled :(

http://www.incas.ro/english/departments/aviation%20programs/caract.gif

http://www.incas.ro/english/departments/aviation%20programs/iar-s-1.jpg

[Kuky]

ah yeah I see now Romanian birds had the nose tip bent... what the hell :D

 

Anyway, the inner pylon shape can be seen in this photo:

[john_X]

i can go under 35000 polys easyly. my problems are the next ones: pilot-actually has 8000 polys(need to remake it or borrow one)and the wheels-13000 polys(remained unchanged since the model was a high poly one), so the final model will have max 35000 polys and the same smoothness as it has now.i think it's a good report of smoothness/no of polys...

[borchi_2b]

well, lets say it the way ED said it to the former simmod team.

 

100k polies is a ammount that should not be crossed. lod models are important too, maybe most important.

 

i do not want to talk about the eagle and the polyies but i am over 50k :-)

[joey45]

reminds me of the Jag...

[leandromarrone]

Nice model :thumbup: but its too high poly, you should forget about subdivision tools like mesh smooth you can make a great model with less than 20000 polys, my berkut has 13000 polys and the model is finished.

I have an IAR-99 under construction too :D

 

Dany my friend, this is amaizing, i love the berkut, plase finish him,

realy nice! thank you :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

[theGozr]

joey45 agreed this is why i like it.. :)

[Hellboy]

Nice model :thumbup: but its too high poly, you should forget about subdivision tools like mesh smooth you can make a great model with less than 20000 polys, my berkut has 13000 polys and the model is finished.

I have an IAR-99 under construction too :D

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 3, 2009 by Hellboy

[joey45]

Dany my friend, this is amaizing, i love the berkut, plase finish her,

realy nice! thank you :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

 

thats better...:music_whistling:

[john_X]

i have a problem with the nose flippers. as you can see some models have them, some models not. what to do? add them ore leave the nose clear?

kuky's sixth pic with the orao in the museum has a very good angle from above to see them better...

[shaggy]

You can hid and unhide certain parts of the model with an argument 70 using a .skins file. So say the first 10 skins uses one model and the other 10 skins uses another model can be achieved with a skins file. For our Red Arrows hawk we have 3 models in 1 model file using jsut 1 argument. I´l let OldCrow a dear friend of mine on this forum explain this better. So in theory you could build a Single Seater and a 2 seater and add under the same aircraft in Lock On.

[Kuky]

John_x, on this photo the Yugoslavian J-22 clearly has them and I would like this model the most as I think this is the original J-22A version without afterburners. The J-22B has been fited with afterburners and can carry Maverick missiles but I think this is later modification that won't match FM of Su-25 you're going to use for it.

 

 

In the end like Shaggy says if you can make 2 different ones that would be best option and in the end it's your model therefore your call :)

 

PS: on this photo to me seems lower aircraft to have the nose antena bent also???

[john_X]

can i add my model on the same spot with su-25 keeping both of them like i saw someone did on gripen mod, he added 2 models gripen simple and gripen double...?

if yes...can i do the same think with the cockpits?add another cockpit and keep su's one too?

[OldCrow]

If you want to have 2 3d models in the same plane in clickon, you would need to combine these two planes in 3dsmax, so unless you have the su-25t max file, its not possible (correct me if im wrong). For cockpit, it is not yet anyone that has made a fully working custm cockpit with hud and mfd for lockon. The best I've seen is the Alphajet cockpit by the ADA mod guys, although this cockpit only have analouge instruments. I think the reason why its not possible to get the hud and mfd's to show in a custom cockpit is lack of tools. It sayes in hte lockon tools readme, that the tools are limited, so many functions doesnt work.

 

However there is a walkaround, you can have one lockon folder for your own mod and one for the original su-25t. Although you wont be able to see both aircraft in the same game (unless you choose another plane then su-25t to mod your own model over)

[Alfa]

There is another way - namely the Su-25TM entry :) . This is a special case because it, code-wise, is a flyable aircraft assigned separately named cockpit files(which can be provided simply by renaming copies of the Su-25T cockpit files) and when made flyable it shares the AFM of the Su-25T.

 

So not only does this allow you to use the AFM of the Su-25T without affecting this entry itself, but it also provides the possibility to use a custom-made cockpit without affecting any of the original flyables.

[OldCrow]

Would love to hear more about that!:smartass: