Mission Editor: Add View unit by radio freq.

[Tom P]

In the view unit list can we get an additional option to see all of the radio freqs instead of manually clicking individual groups to search who has what freq. This would be a major time saver for those that run dedicated servers that get more complex over time as units activate later such as player units, AI units, etc. This would even be beneficial to just a single use missions to be able to quickly check what radio freq is being used since most aircraft have 2 radios that have 10+ channels.

If not in the View units list maybe an additional menu just for radio stuff. 

Edited January 9 by Tom P
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[cfrag]

8 hours ago, Tom P said:

This would even be beneficial to just a single use missions to be able to quickly check what radio freq is being used since most aircraft have 2 radios that have 10+ channels.

While I think that I understand that desire from a mission designer's point of view (and since this is a wish list, all wishes are good), I wonder about the practicality. There are many airframes that have different radios, UHF, VHF, and some have redundant radios. Which brings up the question: if you list units 'by frequency', which radio has precedence over others? What do you list by? How do FM and AM figure in? What are the rules that govern such a sort algorithm? ME is already riddled with abysmally bad UX, and I think that I can live without yet another rule that nobody understands except those who implemented them. With DCS' ME we also have the exacerbating problem that those who implement ME are far removed from those who actually use it (else interface as hellishly broken as that for 'band select' or 'line art' would never have seen the light of day).

Edited January 9 by cfrag

[ShuRugal]

6 hours ago, cfrag said:

While I think that I understand that desire from a mission designer's point of view (and since this is a wish list, all wishes are good), I wonder about the practicality. There are many airframes that have different radios, UHF, VHF, and some have redundant radios. Which brings up the question: if you list units 'by frequency', which radio has precedence over others? What do you list by? How do FM and AM figure in? What are the rules that govern such a sort algorithm? ME is already riddled with abysmally bad UX, and I think that I can live without yet another rule that nobody understands except those who implemented them. With DCS' ME we also have the exacerbating problem that those who implement ME are far removed from those who actually use it (else interface as hellishly broken as that for 'band select' or 'line art' would never have seen the light of day).

no need to overcomplicate <profanity>, we already have this:

Inserting that value in the tabulated units list view would not be difficult to understand.  You're worrying about a problem that's already solved.

 

Alternately, there is plenty of room in the "units" view for multiple additional columns.  "com 1, com 2, com 3, com 4" would be a simple enough solution.

[Tom P]

10 hours ago, cfrag said:

While I think that I understand that desire from a mission designer's point of view (and since this is a wish list, all wishes are good), I wonder about the practicality. There are many airframes that have different radios, UHF, VHF, and some have redundant radios. Which brings up the question: if you list units 'by frequency', which radio has precedence over others? What do you list by? How do FM and AM figure in? What are the rules that govern such a sort algorithm? ME is already riddled with abysmally bad UX, and I think that I can live without yet another rule that nobody understands except those who implemented them. With DCS' ME we also have the exacerbating problem that those who implement ME are far removed from those who actually use it (else interface as hellishly broken as that for 'band select' or 'line art' would never have seen the light of day).

You're over complicating it.

I'm in the mission editor more than I am flying the game, it's not that complicated. Being able to quickly see what groups are using what freqs in the view unit table would be much faster then scrolling through the map looking for groups. So if I wanted to make sure all units were on 250 I could just look at the table regardless if it's FM or AM.(Could make a FM/AM table) If there's a group not on that radio preset I can just fix it right there. Instead of looking around the map for that one unit. 

[cfrag]

8 minutes ago, Tom P said:

You're over complicating it.

Probably. I’m used to groups being on freq A on com 1 to talk to each other in the group, and use a common freq B to talk between groups. So yeah, I can see that for some mission designs being on the same main freq can make things easier. I’m using common names for that (e.g. all groups of strike package 1 start with ‚alpha‘), and using frequencies to sort them simply did not occur to me. So yeah, we could have the freq box (that is loosely tied to the player‘s coms) as one way to sort. Just because I don’t use it doesn’t mean it does not have merit. Looking at the myriad of coms that player planes can have, I simply wasn’t sure of this function‘s usefulness, and I’m still afraid of how the kind folk at ED may implement this.