Cgjunk2 Posted January 21 Posted January 21 (edited) I’ve had some issues with uncommanded drag chute deployment in flight. This problem started when the F5 remaster released. It acts as if it’s a double binding issue with the throttle as it’s moved towards 100 percent. Even though it appears full throttle axis movement is the only thing that triggers chute deployment, it doesn’t always trigger deployment. When I look at my drag chute bindings I don’t see anything else bound to this action (besides my normal binding to deplow chute). Anybody else experience this? I’m not sure if this is a bug, or if I’m missing something obvious. Any help appreciated. Edited January 21 by Cgjunk2
nairb121 Posted January 21 Posted January 21 I haven't had anything like that happen. If it's bound to the throttle device, maybe it's a hardware issue? Maybe you could check the Windows joystick configuration tool (or any other) and see if it's producing a ghost input when moving the throttle.
Cgjunk2 Posted January 21 Author Posted January 21 (edited) I will try that thanks. Is there any other bind action in the F5, besides “drag chute”, that I should check within the DCS bindings menus? Is there a dialog within the game, or file I can access that records actions/commands and what was used to command the action to help me trouble shoot this? Edited January 21 by Cgjunk2
MAXsenna Posted January 22 Posted January 22 3 hours ago, Cgjunk2 said: I will try that thanks. Is there any other bind action in the F5, besides “drag chute”, that I should check within the DCS bindings menus? Is there a dialog within the game, or file I can access that records actions/commands and what was used to command the action to help me trouble shoot this? Actually, it's very simple. Just open Controls settings. Flip every switch, move stick, throttle and what not. And you can see whatevers out of shape. If it doesn't happen, the error lies elsewhere. Cheers!
Cgjunk2 Posted January 22 Author Posted January 22 (edited) So I flew around and noticed that at certain times, movement of the throttles as they went from mil to ab power, the throttles paused in between. It acted as if I had a throttle detent (I don’t). This “step/pause” did not always occur, it seemed to happen randomly. But when it did, the chute plunger was pulled back. i have an Orion2. The throttles levers did not show up as being bound to anything else (besides throttle axes) when I moved them around in the assignment menu. And they did not cause the chute binding to light up. A fellow online player suggested deleting the binding for chute (bound to a rocker axis on the f18 throttle grip). Once deleted, the throttle axes no longer moved as if there was a detent on the axis, and the chute no longer deployed. I bound it to another rocker switch on the other f18 grip, and I get good actuation with no detent on throttle axes, and no uncommanded chute deployment. It might be related to the throttle base itself…still need to check in simapp pro to see if something lights up when I move the throttle. I’ll update if I find the source of that signal. Edited January 22 by Cgjunk2 1
PawlaczGMD Posted January 22 Posted January 22 Weird, I have the Orion2, and it doesn't have any button input for going into AB (unless you do something like that in external software). It also doesn't happen to me when flying the remastered F-5. Maybe your rocker switch has issues. 1
PawlaczGMD Posted January 23 Posted January 23 On 1/22/2025 at 1:15 AM, Cgjunk2 said: So I flew around and noticed that at certain times, movement of the throttles as they went from mil to ab power, the throttles paused in between. It acted as if I had a throttle detent (I don’t). This “step/pause” did not always occur, it seemed to happen randomly. But when it did, the chute plunger was pulled back. i have an Orion2. The throttles levers did not show up as being bound to anything else (besides throttle axes) when I moved them around in the assignment menu. And they did not cause the chute binding to light up. A fellow online player suggested deleting the binding for chute (bound to a rocker axis on the f18 throttle grip). Once deleted, the throttle axes no longer moved as if there was a detent on the axis, and the chute no longer deployed. I bound it to another rocker switch on the other f18 grip, and I get good actuation with no detent on throttle axes, and no uncommanded chute deployment. It might be related to the throttle base itself…still need to check in simapp pro to see if something lights up when I move the throttle. I’ll update if I find the source of that signal. They must have updated the Orion, there actually is a virtual button for AB now. You must have it bound by mistake. Check Simapp. 1
Solution Cgjunk2 Posted January 25 Author Solution Posted January 25 Thanks for the help and ideas! I found my issue after a bit of troubleshooting using the simappro software to track what was going on. I was able to recreate the “pause” or hitching as I moved the throttles quickly through it’s range. Then I noticed 2 virtual buttons briefly light up everytime the throttle had a hiccup. One of those buttons was assigned to “chute deploy”. After a bit if thinking, I double checked the cable connection that goes externally from the base to the bottom of the f18 throttle grip. It wasn’t super loose, but it definitely wasn’t tight. About a half turn to tighten it up, then I retested, and had completely smooth throttle with no ghost activations of the virtual buttons! 3
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