correct as is F16 without GPS "Linked" in HotStart

[Renko]

As the tittle says the F16 in Hot Start (ground or air) spawns without the GPS Time On (Data Link DED page).
Making the systems based only on INS, which affects things like for example CCIP precision.

No need for track, easy to reproducenull. Just spawn hot in ground or air

[NytHawk]

4 hours ago, Renko said:

Making the systems based only on INS, which affects things like for example CCIP precision.
 

The GPS TIME DED setting is not related to the aircrafts navigation or fire control systems, it merely determines your MIDS LVT timing reference.

[BIGNEWY]

Hi, 

Hot/Air Start is designed to be a quick setup with basic items for combat. The pilot can setup the aircraft further if required. 

I would ask the team to add it, but we also have to consider missions where GPS is not available in a mission and it would become irrelevant. 

thank you 

[Renko]

8 hours ago, BIGNEWY said:

Hi, 

Hot/Air Start is designed to be a quick setup with basic items for combat. The pilot can setup the aircraft further if required. 

I would ask the team to add it, but we also have to consider missions where GPS is not available in a mission and it would become irrelevant. 

thank you 

The issue Bignewy is that having the GPS EXTERNAL TIME REFERENCE in DCS OFF affects the precision of CCIP (not 100% sure about others like steerpoints,etc).

I found out because the other day i was geting back on the F16 here on DCS. And I wanted to do a campaign that was unfinished.
So before i went into it, i went to do a quick practice on releases and settings for the CBU87.
I made a mission from scratch. Just a F16 HotAir start with those CBUs. And when i dropped aiming with the CCIP those were off. Not by 10mtrs but for much more. Enough to miss the TGT.
So i tried to figure out what i was doing wrong.
After a few minutes trying things i noticed that in the DataLink page the NETWORK SYNCHONIZATION STATUS was COARSE, and GPS EXTERNAL TIME REFERENCE was Off.

And just after i put the GPS EXTERNAL TIME REFERENCE On, the munitions were hitting very close to the CCIP release.

Thats why i reported it.
I know DataLink should not afect the CCIP precision, but it looks like it does right now. Maybe a bug related to the CCIP issues.

Right now i cant, but i'll check later again if the error persist or its was mistake on my part.
And i'll post here this afternoon a track with it if its the former.

Regards

Edited March 13 by Renko

[BIGNEWY]

Hi

thank you for the feedback, but I must add GPS time is not related to Continuously Calculated Impact Point. 

 

[Renko]

1 hour ago, BIGNEWY said:

Hi

thank you for the feedback, but I must add GPS time is not related to Continuously Calculated Impact Point. 

 

Yes, i was wrong.
I just did more test and GPS EXTERNAL TIME REFERENCE On or Off doesnt make a difference.
Sorry, i truly thought the other day that somehow it fixed the CCIP issues. My bad.

BTW during this afternoon testing i found some issues with the steerpoint while testing the CCIP impacts.
It was off from where it should be. Like a few meters up in some cases, and others many more.
I have tracks of both of those captures, if it could be of any help let me know  and i will upload them on a separate thread. 

Edited March 13 by Renko

[BIGNEWY]

17 minutes ago, Renko said:

BTW during this afternoon testing i found some issues with the steerpoint while testing the CCIP impacts.
It was off from where it should be. Like a few meters up in some cases, and others many more.
I have tracks of both of those captures, if it could be of any help let me know  and i will upload them on a separate thread. 

Best create a new thread, mixing topics usually ends with a difficult to follow thread. 

thank you 

[BIGNEWY]

Update - 

the team have decided to make a small tweak here for a future patch. 

thank you