F14 not authorized / antivirus / false positive

[scommander2]

54 minutes ago, Mad Jack said:

No, nothing

Thanks for updating.

[Gareth Barry]

So...I took a break form DCS, uninstalled it so that I could have space for other games, decided to reinstall and fly the F14....then this...

Anyways, I have added DCS as an exclusion for the windows antivirus, but now I can't seem to run the DCS repair. I find the relevant folder as below;

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\DCSWorld\bin

I then left shift+right click mouse, which takes me to Powershell. I then type in cmd, which I would think should bring up the command prompt, but doesnt. Nevertheless, I try running the command, copy and pasted

DCS_updater.exe cleanup

And get nothing but this message;

'DCS_updater.exe' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

So, what I am doing wrong? Why is the command prompt not coming up?

Really, I just want to fly, not deal with this sort of thing to be honest...

 

[Wingmate]

You need to ad ./ in front of the powershell command  so ./DCS_Updater.exe cleanup

[Gareth Barry]

I tried that, but it still wasn't working. In any case, I ran cleanup from the launcher - I have excluded te whole DCS world folder from windows antivirus, but still no joy. This is very, very frustrating and disappointing, to be honest.

[MAXsenna]

I tried that, but it still wasn't working. In any case, I ran cleanup from the launcher - I have excluded te whole DCS world folder from windows antivirus, but still no joy. This is very, very frustrating and disappointing, to be honest.

Hi Gareth! Can you take a screenshot of the exclusions you have made in Defender?
Cheers!

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[Gareth Barry]

Thanks for the help MAXsenna - please excuse my frustration that may come across as venting - it's just that I started getting rather frustrated with DCS a which is what lead to me uninstalling it in the first place, and this certainly doesnt help when coming back to it. Anyways, I have just uninstalled and am reinstalling DCS via Steam. Here is a screenshot of my exclusion;

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[MAXsenna]

35 minutes ago, Gareth Barry said:

Thanks for the help MAXsenna - please excuse my frustration that may come across as venting - it's just that I started getting rather frustrated with DCS a which is what lead to me uninstalling it in the first place, and this certainly doesnt help when coming back to it. Anyways, I have just uninstalled and am reinstalling DCS via Steam. Here is a screenshot of my exclusion;

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Not at all! I understand the frustration. Unfortunately it doesn't show the whole path, while I assume you have selected the DCS World folder, and no folders under it. Correct? 

Now, I read your post again, to the question I should have asked. Tid you perform I file integrity AFTER you added the exclusions? This is different in Steam, and the Updater doesn't exist for Steam!!! I'm sorry I didn't notice that the first time. We're getting somewhere now. I'm positive!  

In case you don't know how to do that. In the Steam Library, in the Steam App. Select DCS, right click and select properties or something. Then somewhere you have the option to check the integrity of the installed files. I'm sure that step will fix it. 

In case you don't find it, shout out, and I'll see if I can find some relevant screenshots. 

Cheers! 

 

[Gareth Barry]

Thank you so so much MAXsenna, I so do appreciate your help! I have uninstalled DCS and it is currently reinstalling - would this fix the issue or would I still have to check the integrity of the installed files on Steam?

You are correct that I selected the whole DCS World folder, and no folders under it - was I supposed to? (select folders under it I mean?)

Once again, I am so so grateful for the help!

[MAXsenna]

Thank you so so much MAXsenna, I so do appreciate your help! I have uninstalled DCS and it is currently reinstalling - would this fix the issue or would I still have to check the integrity of the installed files on Steam?
You are correct that I selected the whole DCS World folder, and no folders under it - was I supposed to? (select folders under it I mean?)
Once again, I am so so grateful for the help!

Well, to bad i answered you after you did the uninstall!
The integrity basically finds all errors and sets it back to vanilla without the need for a purge and a new install. Anyways! The answer is NO, it should work now without an integrity check. Crossing my fingers for you now!
Cheers!

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[zyph3r]

I'm at that step as well, but I can't get it to work.

I added the exclusion to both the DCS folder in Saved Games and Steamapps/DCS. Note that I have the F-14 DLC unchecked.

After that, I verified the integrity of the files, then re-enabled the F-14 DLC, but I still get this issue. It feels a bit risky to release it like this..

[Gareth Barry]

Thanks to all, thanks again MAXsenna, mine is working perfectly again after the reinstall, having first made sure that the whole DCS World folder was on the exclusion for defender before running the reinstalled version.

Back to the flying now

[scommander2]

7 minutes ago, zyph3r said:

Steamapps/DCS

"steamapps\common\DCSWorld" ?

[zyph3r]

1 minute ago, scommander2 said:

"steamapps\common\DCSWorld" ?

Sorry wrote fast, you can see the exact path in my screen print

[scommander2]

8 minutes ago, zyph3r said:

Sorry wrote fast, you can see the exact path in my screen print

Sorry about it.

Yes, I did have the same message for the steam download, and I disabled my AV for 1 hr to let it down and install. Then, turned AV back online.

PS: just in case, I finished my installation, and I ran the file integration check to make all files were to go from steam.

 

Edited March 21 by scommander2

[MAXsenna]

37 minutes ago, zyph3r said:

Note that I have the F-14 DLC unchecked.

Why? 

Your exclusion path seems correct, though I personally would just exclude the whole Steam Library folder. Which I have done for all my Steam libraries. You can have multiple, and one can choose which library to install a game into. Something's odd for sure. Seems Defender didn't like it when you added the F-14 back, which shouldn't happen to subfolders. Makes me think, were does Steam stage the files. That folder might also need to be excluded. 

 

EDIT: I was correct. The warning tells you exactly what happened. Can you please exclude the whole steamapps folder if you want to solve this?

Cheers!

Edited March 21 by MAXsenna

[zyph3r]

51 minutes ago, MAXsenna said:

Why? 

Your exclusion path seems correct, though I personally would just exclude the whole Steam Library folder. Which I have done for all my Steam libraries. You can have multiple, and one can choose which library to install a game into. Something's odd for sure. Seems Defender didn't like it when you added the F-14 back, which shouldn't happen to subfolders. Makes me think, were does Steam stage the files. That folder might also need to be excluded. 

 

EDIT: I was correct. The warning tells you exactly what happened. Can you please exclude the whole steamapps folder if you want to solve this?

Cheers!

This is getting out of hand. My DCS Steam directory is on the c drive, but for some reason, when I download the F-14 DLC, it saves to my d drive. That's why my exclusion doesn't work... I don't understand.

Edited March 21 by zyph3r

[MAXsenna]

This is getting out of hand. My DCS Steam directory is on the c drive, but for some reason, when I download the F-14 DLC, it saves to my d drive. That's why my exclusion doesn't work... I don't understand.

Oh, I didn't notice the D. Like I wrote above. You can have multiple Steam libraries. Maybe you made one you forgot about? It will look exactly like that, and for some reason Steam decided to to stage the downloads there. More free space? Dunno.

Edit: This is all Steam. ED can't control it. Just add that library too to the exclusions.

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[zyph3r]

1 minute ago, MAXsenna said:

Oh, I didn't notice the D. Like I wrote above. You can have multiple Steam libraries. Maybe you made one you forgot about? It will look exactly like that, and for some reason Steam decided to to stage the downloads there. More free space? Dunno.

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No, you can't choose where to install it because DLCs are add-ons to the base game. The game needs to know where the DLC is located, so it must be installed in a predefined location, typically the game's install folder. That's why Steam doesn't give you the option to select an install location.

[MAXsenna]

No, you can't choose where to install it because DLCs are add-ons to the base game. The game needs to know where the DLC is located, so it must be installed in a predefined location, typically the game's install folder. That's why Steam doesn't give you the option to select an install location.

You're incorrect, I know how Steam works. You can absolutely choose which Steam library you want DCS to be installed into, and the DLCs will follow. I'm not talking about path. And you make as as many Steam libraries you want and on/in what drive/path they should be. You can even copy/move the whole library to a drive or onto a new computer and import it in Steam. You find your Steam Library settings in the general Steam settings. If you right click DCS in Steam, you can see which library it is in, and choose to move it.
Explore your D drive. Should be a library there. Just exclude it in Defender. Verify DCS integrity, update again if necessary, and the F-14 should work again.
I understand your frustration and the Steam settings didn't exactly make it easier for you. That's for sure. But I hope you can solve it now.

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[zyph3r]

11 minutes ago, MAXsenna said:

You're incorrect, I know how Steam works. You can absolutely choose which Steam library you want DCS to be installed into, and the DLCs will follow. I'm not talking about path. And you make as as many Steam libraries you want and on/in what drive/path they should be. You can even copy/move the whole library to a drive or onto a new computer and import it in Steam. You find your Steam Library settings in the general Steam settings. If you right click DCS in Steam, you can see which library it is in, and choose to move it.
Explore your D drive. Should be a library there. Just exclude it in Defender. Verify DCS integrity, update again if necessary, and the F-14 should work again.
I understand your frustration and the Steam settings didn't exactly make it easier for you. That's for sure. But I hope you can solve it now.

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Thank you for your effort in helping me! I’ll look into it. I initially thought that if you downloaded a game to the C drive, all the DLC would also be installed there. I didn't know you could have DLC content on a different drive. Since I run DCS in VR, I definitely want all the DLC content on the same drive. I'll test excluding the D drive to verify that it works and then investigate why Steam is splitting DLC across different drives. Cheers!!

[MAXsenna]

1 hour ago, zyph3r said:

I initially thought that if you downloaded a game to the C drive, all the DLC would also be installed there.

We're talking past each other. Steam can have multiple Steam Library folders, and you can place as many anywhere as you want. You can't choose where to place DLCs, they go with the base game. But Steam is downloading to a temporary folder before it installs it that's the D drive for some reason I can only guess to why, like I explained above. Steam will always download before it installs it in a library that's why you also need to add exclusions for this temporary folder. Again that's what you see in the warning. It literally say "download". Apologies for not being too clear about that.

1 hour ago, zyph3r said:

I'll test excluding the D drive to verify that it works and then investigate why Steam is splitting DLC across different drives. Cheers!!

Please do, and again, that's NOT what Steam does. It downloads, (and probably unpacks), to D before it installs it on C.

Best of luck! 

[SOLIDKREATE]

13 hours ago, draconus said:

You once again spread misinformation - firewall rules has nothing to do with the problem. The only thing worth from that video is at the 2 minute mark - the action part.

 

You once again make an ill informed, rude comment. There is nothing wrong with what I did. As you can see all the steps I took work right? You're welcome by the way. If you know better, make your own video or guide and post it instead of complaining about everything.

[sideshow]

For me, excluding the DCS folder as a whole did not work.  First, the folder was already in my exclusions.  Second, when I ran a repair it immediately flagged the .dll and wouldn't install it.  I had to disable Windows Virus and Threat Protection, run a repair, exclude the F14-HeatblurCommon.dll file, and then turn virus and threat protection back on.  At least for now that works.

Edited March 22 by sideshow

[MAXsenna]

6 hours ago, SOLIDKREATE said:

You once again make an ill informed, rude comment.

No, he is correct. What you did just adds to the confusion because, I'm sorry, you don't understand the difference between what the Firewall does, and what the anti-virus does, after we've been trying to help you AND tell you what to do over several days, where you fail to answer simple questions that would have helped you. That is actually rude.

6 hours ago, SOLIDKREATE said:

There is nothing wrong with what I did. As you can see all the steps I took work right?

It's so wrong, but you fail to understand this. You do add disinformation. We've been working in IT for years, and this is typical user behavior of users who believes they know something when they don't. Sorry for calling you out.
How many times did I tell you not to mess with the firewall?

6 hours ago, SOLIDKREATE said:

If you know better, make your own video or guide and post it instead of complaining about everything.

He actually does, and you confuse other users, and why make a video when the steps are so easy?
-Exclude the folders
-Perform a repair
-You may need to update again

He's not complaining, he is telling you, you are wrong.

 

Hi @sideshow, you added the wrong folders the first time. That's why it didn't work.

Cheers!

 

 

[Mermoz]

okay this is not just a windows defender issue..

 

I use bitdefender and it's putting  F14-HeatblurCommon.DLL file in quarantine over and over because it detected the following code in it :

Trojan.GenericKD.76104938