Maverick stabilization

[SpecteRED]

Does maverick have any stabilization relative to earth? and will there be such a feature? or was there no such thing on this plane? It's pretty hard to aim at a target right now

[Zabuzard]

Does maverick have any stabilization relative to earth? and will there be such a feature? or was there no such thing on this plane? It's pretty hard to aim at a target right now

They did not have any stabilization, nope. Thats how it was IRL

[Hobel]

Am 15.3.2025 um 14:30 schrieb Zabuzard:

They did not have any stabilization, nope. Thats how it was IRL

maybe rel. but isn't there a function that after a Maverick launch the next Maverick has the same LOS, so that you don't have to slew into the target area every time?

I think I took that from one of the manuals.

[Zabuzard]

maybe rel. but isn't there a function that after a Maverick launch the next Maverick has the same LOS, so that you don't have to slew into the target area every time?
I think I took that from one of the manuals.

For the F-4E pre-DMAS? Not that I am aware.

[Hobel]

vor 10 Stunden schrieb Zabuzard:

vor 12 Stunden schrieb Hobel:

maybe rel. but isn't there a function that after a Maverick launch the next Maverick has the same LOS, so that you don't have to slew into the target area every time?
I think I took that from one of the manuals.

For the F-4E pre-DMAS? Not that I am aware.

The paragraph refers mainly to Lau-88A having the special ability. Our F4 currently only has Lau-88.

I don't think it was necessarily dependent on the F4 but rather the Lau version.

I would post an excerpt from the manual here later, it is one of the F4 books and is also partly used in the DCS F4 manual.

[Hobel]

  

Am 17.3.2025 um 00:12 schrieb Zabuzard:

Am 16.3.2025 um 22:06 schrieb Hobel:

maybe rel. but isn't there a function that after a Maverick launch the next Maverick has the same LOS, so that you don't have to slew into the target area every time?
I think I took that from one of the manuals.

For the F-4E pre-DMAS? Not that I am aware.

 

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Edited March 19 by Hobel

[Ornithopter]

In real life, was it always standard procedure for the pilot to do all the pointing and slewing?  Did they ever have the pilot point the nose at the target, and then have the WSO do the precise slewing and locking part?  As pilot, unless my target is a building, I find it a bit difficult to get more than 1 Maverick off on a single pass, at a single vehicle, and with a reasonable standoff distance. 

[Zabuzard]

22 minutes ago, Ornithopter said:

In real life, was it always standard procedure for the pilot to do all the pointing and slewing?  Did they ever have the pilot point the nose at the target, and then have the WSO do the precise slewing and locking part?  As pilot, unless my target is a building, I find it a bit difficult to get more than 1 Maverick off on a single pass, at a single vehicle, and with a reasonable standoff distance. 

Both was done IRL. It was mostly crew preference.

The main issue is that, lacking stabilization, the WSO gets thrown off when the pilot suddenly moves the aircraft around. Its easier for the pilot to know when to not touch the Maverick stick because they want to execute a maneuver than the other way around. But therefore it is of course easier for the WSO to focus on picking targets while the pilot focuses on flying.

2 hours ago, Hobel said:

  

 

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Ill bring it up with the team and the SMEs for clarification.

I vaguely remember a discussion though that sth like this was for DMAS or later only. Will see, cheers.

[Hobel]

vor 14 Minuten schrieb Zabuzard:

Both was done IRL. It was mostly crew preference.

The main issue is that, lacking stabilization, the WSO gets thrown off when the pilot suddenly moves the aircraft around. Its easier for the pilot to know when to not touch the Maverick stick because they want to execute a maneuver than the other way around. But therefore it is of course easier for the WSO to focus on picking targets while the pilot focuses on flying.

Ill bring it up with the team and the SMEs for clarification.

I vaguely remember a discussion though that sth like this was for DMAS or later only. Will see, cheers.

Thank you, I will look for the exact manual again and send you a PM

[DSplayer]

17 hours ago, Hobel said:

Thank you, I will look for the exact manual again and send you a PM

It's from the 1986 TO 1F-4E-34-1-1 page 1-165. Later in the manual in the Procedures section it doesn't make the distinction that it is DMAS aircraft specific so it does look to be applicable for the AGM-65D on our when mounted on the LAU-88A/A such that it can slave missiles on the same pylon to a common missile LOS. 

Edited March 20 by DSplayer

[Hobel]

vor 28 Minuten schrieb DSplayer:

It's from the 1986 TO 1F-4E-34-1-1 page 1-165. Later in the manual in the Procedures section it doesn't make the distinction that it is DMAS aircraft specific so it does look to be applicable for the AGM-65D on our when mounted on the LAU-88A/A such that it can slave missiles on the same pylon to a common missile LOS. 

Oh nice thanks! Yes, I think so too. The only question that remains is can our F4 carry Lau-88A? Currently I see no reason why not and the possibility of this feature seems to be getting closer.

 

I'm looking forward to HB's assessment