Ivonq Posted July 19, 2009 Posted July 19, 2009 Hi All, First post, and Yes I have searched the forums, but I can't find an answer to my question. I'm new to the game so please bar with me. My left stick on the controller works as the helicopter stick. I'd like my right stick for looking around in the helicopter, now that is some locked (seems like it) to the cross pad. How do I set this up correctly? As the control scheme is rather overwhelming. Thanks for your input!
EtherealN Posted July 19, 2009 Posted July 19, 2009 Wow... I would actually suspect that the reason there wasn't anything that popped up through search is that you might be the first one who decides to try flying DCS with a 360 controller. :P But I'll have a dig around and see if I can find something, but I would really REALLY advice you to invest in a joystick - even a cheap one. Are you playing in game mode or sim mode? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
Huckle Posted July 19, 2009 Posted July 19, 2009 First step- back up the Black Shark folder inside the main game folder. You'll need this later when you break something. Next- take a deep breath and go to Options screen in game, then Controls. It shouldn't be too hard to change the keys over. It's worth taking a while over this, too hasty, or too many deletions, and you'll be copy/pasting that backup folder.
Ivonq Posted July 19, 2009 Author Posted July 19, 2009 Wow... I would actually suspect that the reason there wasn't anything that popped up through search is that you might be the first one who decides to try flying DCS with a 360 controller. :P But I'll have a dig around and see if I can find something, but I would really REALLY advice you to invest in a joystick - even a cheap one. Are you playing in game mode or sim mode? ...I'm starting off in arcade mode to get acquainted with the whole system. Am currently watching the training vids. In Arcade mode the flying with the controller is more than okay!
EtherealN Posted July 19, 2009 Posted July 19, 2009 It's slightly off-topic, but I do want to caution you against using arcade mode to "get acquainted". It will cause you to gain a lot of what's called negative training - that is, when you move over to the simulator mode you'll have to unlearn a lot in how the helicopter handles, which can cause a bit of a frustrating experience. That said, I did once try a flight in arcade mode to help troubleshoot something for a guy a good while ago, and it was a kickass load of fun, so I can't really blame you if you're in it for the arcade. I was feeling all fuzzy with flashbacks from the good old novalogic "sims". :D But you'll have to be seriously good with that controller (or have a disgusting amount of R/C aircraft experience :P ) to have an enjoyable experience in sim mode with it. Though note that that's just my suspicion, I haven't actually bothered digging up my Xbox to try it out myself. Not when I already have several sticks scrapping the place and is planning for a proper HOTAS as my next purchase. :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
PlainSight Posted July 19, 2009 Posted July 19, 2009 You set your view in the axis submenu of controls. Cant's miss it, it's the only greened line, right at the top. There, you set horizontal and vertical slews. [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
luckybob9 Posted July 19, 2009 Posted July 19, 2009 you might be the first one who decides to try flying DCS with a 360 controller. :P Somewhat. Im using the Ace Edge controller that i got from the ace combat 6 limited edition. My PC thinks its an ordinary 360 controller though, theres no special drivers. It works like a charm! When i get home ill to some testing to see if I can map something to the right joystick. Nevada map contributer EDM Modeling tools FAQ: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1418067&postcount=1 Seo libh a chairde is chanadh liom. Líonaigí'n oíche le greann is le spórt. Seo sláinte na gcarad atá imithe uainn. Mar cheo an tsléibhe uaine, iad imithe go deo
Ivonq Posted July 20, 2009 Author Posted July 20, 2009 You set your view in the axis submenu of controls. Cant's miss it, it's the only greened line, right at the top. There, you set horizontal and vertical slews. Hi, Thanks, it works but it is way too fast, as the slow versions seem to be locked to the mouse? Is there any way to slow those axis down? Because now if look in a direction when I'm in the cockpit it is faster than a bolt of light. Grtz
PlainSight Posted July 20, 2009 Posted July 20, 2009 Use the "axis tune" option and decrease sarutation. [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Ivonq Posted July 20, 2009 Author Posted July 20, 2009 Use the "axis tune" option and decrease sarutation. Wouldn't that also influence the left stick?
EtherealN Posted July 20, 2009 Posted July 20, 2009 No, since you are only tuning a specific axis. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
MajorTom Posted December 18, 2010 Posted December 18, 2010 Right I am playing Black Shark on my 360 pad while I save my pennies for a HOTAS. I am genuinely surprised at how well it works, cyclic is the left thumb stick, triggers are the rudder and I am using the right thumb stick as the collective. Now everything works fine apart from the right stick collective. The problem is that it takes the absolute position of the stick so when the stick is in the middle it is at 50%. I also play Freespace 2 with the pad with basically the same flight controls, it allows me to set the throttle relative to the position of the stick. I can push the stick forward and it adds a few % to the throttle determined how far I push the stick forward or backwards. I would like this set up in Black Shark, where the collective power is determined relative to the starting position of the stick ie the middle. Anyone got any ideas? I can try to explain better if you are confused (I know I am by reading it back).
WildBillKelsoe Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 I'm seriously considering buying one for DCS BS, after a DOA saitek x52. Based on experience, Microsoft products, are very good in rep and quality. Based on your usage, could you tell how it behaves if you use it in the sim mode? does it respond to tiny movements to coll/cyc/rudder? is it smooth? urgent to response please. AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
Le0kong Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 (edited) I will only recommend getting a 360 controller to play DCS if you plan on using it to play other games like GTA,Resident Evil 5,DeadSpace, etc... If you going to use mostly for sims then it's probably better to look for one of these stick with a throttle on the base. There lots of recommendation for these on another topic, they are around the same $40-50 price. I did play for a few months on a 360 in both BS and A-10. The biggest problem on BS is using the collective through buttons, and you will need to use at least two buttons(i used the L&R buttons) as modifiers to multiply the number of buttons available. On the A-10C is good enough to learn and play light missions. I had DMS,TMS,CMS,China,MIC,AP,POV,dual trigger, analog slew... all available on the controller through combination of modifiers. I wish a had kept some BS tracks for you to see how it played. Just make sure you get a original one, there some copies that look just like the original, but the pots are much less sensible. Edited February 13, 2011 by Le0kong AMD Athlon II X2 240 2.8@3360 MHz | MB Asus M4A78-EM | 4GB DDR2-800 Kingston | XFX HD 5770 @850-900/1200-1300 | 500G Samsung HD502HI | Case CM 335 | CM-EPP 460W | Windows 7 Ultimate (64bit) | Saitek X65F | Freetrack(Wii Remote) | LG 23' W2353V
WildBillKelsoe Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 thx mate. Irony is I dont have a box. only ps3. The stick can wait till I personally hit the States next August AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
Le0kong Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 I mean playing the PC version of these games, all these "games for windows live" have presets to use on the 360 controller. AMD Athlon II X2 240 2.8@3360 MHz | MB Asus M4A78-EM | 4GB DDR2-800 Kingston | XFX HD 5770 @850-900/1200-1300 | 500G Samsung HD502HI | Case CM 335 | CM-EPP 460W | Windows 7 Ultimate (64bit) | Saitek X65F | Freetrack(Wii Remote) | LG 23' W2353V
WildBillKelsoe Posted February 21, 2011 Posted February 21, 2011 (edited) hey dude. I got your same problem. If you tell me what to do with these .lua files? I want the rudder on the RT and LT trigger buttons. And the collective on the left analog (just atop the dpad) and the cyclic on the right analog. If you could tune your profile and save it to that config and up it here would be very cool. EDIT: I solved the mapping problem. Here: input.lua (105.27 KB) load the game up, then open options --> load profile --> input.LUA stick config: left analog --> cyclic (fwd/back/rt/lt) right analog --> rudder triggers --> collective shkval slew --> Dpad lock, fire, trim, ? --> XYAB you may change the stick config later by looking at the assigned axes and memorizing them. Pretty easy have fun Edited February 21, 2011 by WildBillKelsoe AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
Le0kong Posted February 21, 2011 Posted February 21, 2011 No need to edit lua files manually. just go in DCS options and assigning the button and axis like any hotas. I don't use the default x360 drivers from Microsoft, i use the XBCD drivers since they work better with non Xinput("Gams for windows live") games. Just a note that the XBCD drivers are a pain in the a** to install in a 64 bits windows, since you need do disable driver signing. I will attach both the DCS:BS config and the XBCD file to load on the XBCD controll panel. With mine XBCD profile there 4 presets that you can change by pressing the "sphere" button during a game, and the light will change to the profile you are using. I used the #3 for DCS and #2 for Xinput games.x360_DCS_1.zip AMD Athlon II X2 240 2.8@3360 MHz | MB Asus M4A78-EM | 4GB DDR2-800 Kingston | XFX HD 5770 @850-900/1200-1300 | 500G Samsung HD502HI | Case CM 335 | CM-EPP 460W | Windows 7 Ultimate (64bit) | Saitek X65F | Freetrack(Wii Remote) | LG 23' W2353V
WildBillKelsoe Posted February 22, 2011 Posted February 22, 2011 thanks dude!!! But still, we're behind everyone here... I had a DOA saitek, returned it to amazon, and now, stuck with this controller... Guess you cant fight fate, ha? Well, I'm saving for a Genius G940 system :D... hopefully its good if some ppl here own it, do tell... AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
Callyste Posted February 23, 2011 Posted February 23, 2011 Wow... I would actually suspect that the reason there wasn't anything that popped up through search is that you might be the first one who decides to try flying DCS with a 360 controller. :P Actually, the first times I have flown DCS: A-10 (sim mode), was with an Xbox360 controller :pilotfly:(I was waiting for my HOTAS Warthog!) And well, it's surprisingly effective, aslong as you are just flying around. I had it set up as left stick for plane's stick, and right stick for viewing around the cockpit. I'll check when I'm back home and will let you know how I set it up. cheers, Callyste
BaboonBoy Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Hi First time post! Sorry to revive a necro thread but can anyone who uses a xbox 360 controller to play A10c Warthog please post their config (for sim mode or preferably just for the quick start game modes). I was getting confused trying to bind the controlls myself so thought I'd see if anyone on here could kindly help? I know a stick is the way to go for playing this game but I haven't got the funds and wanted to have a blast with this game sooner than later (it looks and sounds AMAZING on my pc too). Thanks in advance (and sorry if this is in the wrong section or anything).
cichlidfan Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 Nobody on here able to help? :cry: I honestly cannot recall ever seeing anyone mention using that controller. I am sure it can be done but it will require some creativity and a lot of keyboard use. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
BaboonBoy Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 I honestly cannot recall ever seeing anyone mention using that controller. I am sure it can be done but it will require some creativity and a lot of keyboard use. Thanks for the reply. See the post previous to my first one as thats a member on here saying they got it to work. I am going to get a stick but for a decent one it will take some time to be able to afford it so I thought for now that I could just try the game really with the 360 pad?
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