Request VR Recommendations: MeganeX vs Bigscreen

[cfrag]

And so, with much of the world's stock market in freefall, I've decided that I can burn my money more productively and invest in some more awesome VR tech. I'm coming from a Vive Pro 2 (which has served me well), and I've decided to go all in with OLED (I'm tired of 'foggy grey nights') at a good resolution. AND, getting older, I want some lightweight HMD. So it'll have to be either the MegX (8k) or Bigscreen Beyond 2.

I'm aware that the MegX aren't hipping in quantity, and I also know that if there are people who have them, they'd probably be DCS pilots  

So, if there is anyone who can share experience/recommendations, I'm all eyes. Let's not look at the price tag too much (the tariff imposed on a US product may be applied soon, I'll factor that in later). As everyone in DCS world, I'm used to painful experiences.

So, if you have specific DCS experience with either VR, what can you share so I can make up my mind? I'm planning to upgrade my VR in May/June.

Oh, and I'm running this on an R9 9950X3D with an RTX5090, 96GB main mem.

Edited April 5 by cfrag

[speed-of-heat]

More a question really , I can't see if the MeganeX supports eye tracking? and i know it's optional with BSB2, and deliveries start in Jun2025 with eye tracking.  But you could just use quadviews in FFR mode i suppose ? 

[cfrag]

14 minutes ago, speed-of-heat said:

I can't see if the MeganeX supports eye tracking

MegX currently do not support eye tracking, and that's fine with me. If we set aside the product inherent differences, what would be the actual experience in DCS, the pros and cons pertaining to DCS -- as that is where I spend most of my quality time -- gaming: how does it integrate with DCS, how difficult is it to set up to run with DCS, what are the pitfalls (for example, I was deeply disappointed to find out how crappy Vive Pro 2's night flying was with LCD VR as opposed to OLED which I used before), what works really well (I think that Lighthouse tracking is so much superior to other forms that it's not even funny any more). DCS can't ad-hoc switch between flat and VR, and I think that's game-inherent, but if one of those headsets find their way around that, it'll be a game changer (I develop missions, and the MegX can snap up, an incredible QoL jump over my current HMD and a leg up over the BS2, which may deliver a halo strap some time later). So (and thanks @speed-of-heat for reminding me to be more precise in my question): what are your current QoL pro/cons for either? Both seem to fit my bill, and it's up to how it integrates with DCS now, the little nuts and bolts of everyday flying.

Edited April 5 by cfrag

[MAXsenna]

MegX, (interesting name), is the same as the MeganeX, right. I can't read sometimes. 

Seems Steve easily got it working and is happy about it. 

 

 

Edited April 5 by MAXsenna
Can't read

[speed-of-heat]

4 hours ago, cfrag said:

MegX currently do not support eye tracking, and that's fine with me. If we set aside the product inherent differences, what would be the actual experience in DCS, the pros and cons pertaining to DCS -- as that is where I spend most of my quality time -- gaming: how does it integrate with DCS, how difficult is it to set up to run with DCS, what are the pitfalls (for example, I was deeply disappointed to find out how crappy Vive Pro 2's night flying was with LCD VR as opposed to OLED which I used before), what works really well (I think that Lighthouse tracking is so much superior to other forms that it's not even funny any more). DCS can't ad-hoc switch between flat and VR, and I think that's game-inherent, but if one of those headsets find their way around that, it'll be a game changer (I develop missions, and the MegX can snap up, an incredible QoL jump over my current HMD and a leg up over the BS2, which may deliver a halo strap some time later). So (and thanks @speed-of-heat for reminding me to be more precise in my question): what are your current QoL pro/cons for either? Both seem to fit my bill, and it's up to how it integrates with DCS now, the little nuts and bolts of everyday flying.

for me the MeganeX feels like a non-starter without eye tracking at that resolution for DCS, it's slightly lower refresh rate (75Hz native) , might balance that up some as you only need to generate 83 percent of the performance to make it work for DCS, even with your specs, other than that weight wise they feel close enough in terms of capability ... my instinct would be BSB as it is going to get more market share and therefore more support 

3 hours ago, MAXsenna said:

MegX, (interesting name), is the same as the MeganeX, right. I can't read sometimes. 

Seems Steve easily got it working and is happy about it. 

 

 

steve is always pretty much happy with a new headset 

[MAXsenna]

steve is always pretty much happy with a new headset 

Yeah, that's the point. But I assume it was easy enough to set up.

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[Ebphoto]

On 4/5/2025 at 4:35 AM, cfrag said:

And so, with much of the world's stock market in freefall, I've decided that I can burn my money more productively and invest in some more awesome VR tech. I'm coming from a Vive Pro 2 (which has served me well), and I've decided to go all in with OLED (I'm tired of 'foggy grey nights') at a good resolution. AND, getting older, I want some lightweight HMD. So it'll have to be either the MegX (8k) or Bigscreen Beyond 2.

I'm aware that the MegX aren't hipping in quantity, and I also know that if there are people who have them, they'd probably be DCS pilots  

So, if there is anyone who can share experience/recommendations, I'm all eyes. Let's not look at the price tag too much (the tariff imposed on a US product may be applied soon, I'll factor that in later). As everyone in DCS world, I'm used to painful experiences.

So, if you have specific DCS experience with either VR, what can you share so I can make up my mind? I'm planning to upgrade my VR in May/June.

Oh, and I'm running this on an R9 9950X3D with an RTX5090, 96GB main mem.

So having played with multiple VR headsets and  the Bigscreen being one of them I have to say the Bigscreen is my favorite even with the glare issue. I find it’s the most comfortable of all of them. Now I know they are coming out with a new version which has eye tracking and some other features as well so maybe check that one out. I do not know when it’s planned to be available though. The one thing I did not like about the Bigscreen was you have to get tracking stations since it’s missing the internal cameras for that. Im not sure if the new one will include them or not. It’s not really a huge deal but still and extra expense and just one more thing you have to mess with. It is by far the most comfortable headset I have tried. I mean you can actually forget you’re wearing it. Oh and also I would recommend purchasing the audio add on for it. It makes a huge difference as well to the comfort of it. I have a Pimax Crystal as well as a HP Reverb 2 and we have a Quest 3 as well and I like the Bigscreen the most. Hope that helps.

[cfrag]

Thank you so much for the feedback! It helps a lot. @Ebphoto!

7 hours ago, Ebphoto said:

The one thing I did not like about the Bigscreen was you have to get tracking stations

That's the one I do not worry about. I have tracking stations, and find them so much superior to inside-out tracking that not supporting them would be an issue to me

 

[AlessandroFuBu]

Hi, I own a quest 3 andi wanto to upgrade  to the bsb2 but I have a 4080s, 7800x3d and 64gb ddr5. Is it ok? All the reviews are made with a 5090 or 4099.

thanks

[speed-of-heat]

my understanding is that will give you a 12% frame rate reduction on like for like settings over a 4090

[kerlcat]

FYI. I just upgraded to Crystal Super. Even with some known shortcomings, still it's a great option for simmers for its all-in-one design, forvead rendering, big FOV and high clarify. In trial period now, will decide if to keep or return it in 2 wks. 

[MadMonty]

3 hours ago, kerlcat said:

FYI. I just upgraded to Crystal Super. Even with some known shortcomings, still it's a great option for simmers for its all-in-one design, forvead rendering, big FOV and high clarify. In trial period now, will decide if to keep or return it in 2 wks. 

Waiting for my Crystal Super. Would be very happy to read about your decision of keeping it or not...

[cfrag]

I'm now reading less than reassuring reports from users of the MegX, which is disconcerting to say the least, as I was trending towards that HMD because of overlap and higher res. And thank you all for the additional hints to look at, this decision isn't even half as clear-cut as I hoped it to be. 

[kaboki]

On 4/10/2025 at 2:04 AM, Ebphoto said:

So having played with multiple VR headsets and  the Bigscreen being one of them I have to say the Bigscreen is my favorite even with the glare issue. I find it’s the most comfortable of all of them. Now I know they are coming out with a new version which has eye tracking and some other features as well so maybe check that one out. I do not know when it’s planned to be available though. The one thing I did not like about the Bigscreen was you have to get tracking stations since it’s missing the internal cameras for that. Im not sure if the new one will include them or not. It’s not really a huge deal but still and extra expense and just one more thing you have to mess with. It is by far the most comfortable headset I have tried. I mean you can actually forget you’re wearing it. Oh and also I would recommend purchasing the audio add on for it. It makes a huge difference as well to the comfort of it. I have a Pimax Crystal as well as a HP Reverb 2 and we have a Quest 3 as well and I like the Bigscreen the most. Hope that helps.

How is the clarity on distant scenery and shimmer with BSB compared to reverb g2? I ordered the BSB2 to replace reverb G2, but not sure if i made a mistake and should have gone for the pimax super instead.(the weight and size looked scary).

Edited April 29 by kaboki

[speed-of-heat]

depends on the cause of the shimmer.,.. in my experience thats usually down to MSAA nothing to do with the headset 

clarity is a direct function of resolution and PPD  , so you will be getting about so the G2 is about 2/3rds the resolution of the BSB2 

likely with a wider sweet spot and FOV and higher Pixel Density 

Edited April 29 by speed-of-heat

[kaboki]

13 minutes ago, speed-of-heat said:

depends on the cause of the shimmer.,.. in my experience thats usually down to MSAA nothing to do with the headset 

clarity is a direct function of resolution and PPD  , so you will be getting about so the G2 is about 2/3rds the resolution of the BSB2 

likely with a wider sweet spot and FOV and higher Pixel Density 

From what I experienced higher resolution really helps with shimmering and from what i seen with through the lens videos, higher resolution headsets has way less shimmering and things in distance looks better. So I wonder how much better the BSB will be compared to my reverb….

[Qcumber]

3 hours ago, kaboki said:

From what I experienced higher resolution really helps with shimmering

By shimmering I presume you are referring to aliasing. As Speed-of-Heat says, increasing the resolution will reduce aliasing regardless of headset. I can run my Quest Pro at 5000x5000 pixels and the image looks great but performance is terrible. The only difference in this context (ignoring lenses etc) between a rift s, quest pro and a Megane x or BG2 is the pixel density and whether you can see the "screen door". So buying a very expensive headset because it has avery high pixel density and native resolution is not necessarily the best option.

In terms of resolution and aliasing it is best to push the resolution as high as your system will allow and apply antialiasing with MSAA or DLAA. 

[kaboki]

3 hours ago, Qcumber said:

By shimmering I presume you are referring to aliasing. As Speed-of-Heat says, increasing the resolution will reduce aliasing regardless of headset. I can run my Quest Pro at 5000x5000 pixels and the image looks great but performance is terrible. The only difference in this context (ignoring lenses etc) between a rift s, quest pro and a Megane x or BG2 is the pixel density and whether you can see the "screen door". So buying a very expensive headset because it has avery high pixel density and native resolution is not necessarily the best option.

In terms of resolution and aliasing it is best to push the resolution as high as your system will allow and apply antialiasing with MSAA or DLAA. 

Yes aliasing, correct. Think I misunderstood hes answer. So upscaling my reverb G2 can achive the same picture quality as the BRB2? What is the point of upgrading then:p. When i went from the samsung oddyssey+ to reverb, the clarity and shimmering got a lot better. So are you saying I could just kept the oddyssey and upscaled the res and gotten the same result? Really, then what is the point of making higher res headsets other than killing the framerates:p. Im puzzled now, maybe I should cancel my order…

To add, after getting the reverb, I could not see any screendor effect anymore, so if that is the only point with higher pixel density then its useless for me because at 2160x2160 I cant really see it anymore.. 

Edited April 29 by kaboki

[AlessandroFuBu]

wait, the BSB2 has also super cool new pancakelenses (like quest3) so you will see WAY better those panels wich in the BSB2 are oled. I think is a different league, they don't compete at all!

[Qcumber]

1 hour ago, kaboki said:

So upscaling my reverb G2 can achive the same picture quality as the BRB2?

No. The BSB2 has much better lenses and the potential for eye tracking.

1 hour ago, kaboki said:

So are you saying I could just kept the oddyssey and upscaled the res and gotten the same result?

No. The G2 has limited life and old lenses. 

My point is that you could consider a Quest 3 (or Quest Pro if you want eye tracking). Whilst I like the look of both BSB and the MeganeX they are very expensive and unlikely to give you a significant boost over other, cheaper headsets. 

42 minutes ago, AlessandroFuBu said:

wait, the BSB2 has also super cool new pancakelenses (like quest3) so you will see WAY better those panels wich in the BSB2 are oled. I think is a different league, they don't compete at all!

On paper it looks great. However, there are no real comparisons with other headsets in DCS. Do you have one yet? How does it compare to a Quest 3? 

[kaboki]

32 minutes ago, Qcumber said:

No. The BSB2 has much better lenses and the potential for eye tracking.

No. The G2 has limited life and old lenses. 

My point is that you could consider a Quest 3 (or Quest Pro if you want eye tracking). Whilst I like the look of both BSB and the MeganeX they are very expensive and unlikely to give you a significant boost over other, cheaper headsets. 

On paper it looks great. However, there are no real comparisons with other headsets in DCS. Do you have one yet? How does it compare to a Quest 3? 

I already bought BSB2, and simply wanted to know if I get clearer picture and less shimmering and if things look better at distant scenery than Reverb G2. I dont need eyetracking and resolution wise the quest 3 looks like a downgrade(on paper), and I hate zuckerbeg, so quest 3 is not an option for me. 

[AlessandroFuBu]

36 minuti fa, Qcumber ha scritto:

On paper it looks great. However, there are no real comparisons with other headsets in DCS. Do you have one yet? How does it compare to a Quest 3? 

No I don't have it and I will never be able to try it for free. I have just seen the review but I am waiting for some dcs user to try it. It is very expensive (you need to consider around 1800/2000 euro) and the eye tracking won't work for dcs at the beginning, later (how long?) who knows. The only review that I can relay on will be from Mark Kovalcson that has a 4090 ad play dcs. I own a 4080 super and I will skip the 5000 series couse it is too close to the 4000 to upgrade for me which also means that meganex is too much for my gpu.

About the Quest 3 a lot of people says that BSB1 already was a big step ahead of the Quest 3 so I assume that the BSB2 is way better couse they fix all the problems of the first version. I am also intereste in pcvr headset and oled. I am keeping an eye on this BSB2.

When I said "wait" to Kaboki it was regarding his "cancel my order". He can try it and compare it to his headset if the first reaction will be "holy s...." then probably he did a good choice.

Kaboki can you try a Quest3?

[kaboki]

8 minutes ago, AlessandroFuBu said:

Kaboki can you try a Quest3?

How?:p. Unless I buy it, I cant try it.. But that said, even if quest 3 was the best in the world and I got It for free I would not want it.  Not to keen on Zuckerberg selling the data he gathers while im wearing it:p

Edited April 29 by kaboki

[AlessandroFuBu]

12 minuti fa, kaboki ha scritto:

I already bought BSB2, and simply wanted to know if I get clearer picture and less shimmering and if things look better at distant scenery than Reverb G2. I dont need eyetracking and resolution wise the quest 3 looks like a downgrade(on paper), and I hate zuckerbeg, so quest 3 is not an option for me. 

I hope you will post some review about your experience with BSB2.
about the quest 3, since it has great lenses, it is just for comparing the quest3 (500euro) to your headset and then with your BSB2 It is not for buying the quest3 but to compare the pancake lenses with Fresnel lenses

VR head set is not just resolution of the panels but most important is a multifactor thing. You can have the best of the best panel and then <profanity> lenses, this means that you CAN'T see those beautiful panel in full beauty. Fresnel lenses are quite "old" tecnology (The G2)

3 minuti fa, kaboki ha scritto:

How?:p. Unless I buy it, I cant try it.. But that said, even if quest 3 was the best in the world and I got It for free I would not want it.  Not to keen on Zuckerberg selling the data he can mine while im wearing it:p

got it. so if we put out quest 3 you have few choices and are expensive but I recon that for sure bsb2 will be better anyway then your G2...

Edited April 29 by AlessandroFuBu

[kaboki]

2 minutes ago, AlessandroFuBu said:

I hope you will post some review about your experience with BSB2.
about the quest 3, since it has great lenses, it is just for comparing the quest3 (500euro) to your headset and then with your BSB2.

VR head set is not just resolution of the panels but most important is a multifactor thing. You can have the best of the best panel and then <profanity> lenses, this means that you CAN'T see those beautiful panel in full beauty. Fresnel lenses are quite "old" tecnology (The G2)

That would be in July if im lucky to get it. Sure I can post my impression if I remember this conversation:p. From what I heard the pancake lenses on BSB2 is on par with the quest 3, so the lenses should be quite good, unless the reviewers are lying..