about the elctrolocomotive

[Beta Sokol]

@Maestro so hello, i'm so impressesd by the videos, awesome ! BUT there is a little detail which isn't correct. In some videos an elecrolocomotive is driving around, the map represents the late 80's, the locomtive is clearly a BR250 the so called Energiecontainer and belongs to Deutsche Reichsbahn and has the wrong colors for the time period (and it's driving in the wrong -imperialistic- part of gemany)-just for fun-... All (or the most) locomotives of DR had beside of the older green ones this much nicer and darker bordeaux-red instead of traffic-red or orient-red which came later after reunification and the merge between DR and DB mostly after overhauls or retofits.It's hard to find any pictures, but there are still some original paintet loco's around.Here is an example of an model showing the correct color scheme.

btw this model costs more then 300 Euros !!!

Please correct this, many thanks !

Maybe you can keep the other other paint and make some kind of liveries...

[Punkmonkey22]

16 hours ago, Beta Sokol said:

@Maestro so hello, i'm so impressesd by the videos, awesome ! BUT there is a little detail which isn't correct. In some videos an elecrolocomotive is driving around, the map represents the late 80's, the locomtive is clearly a BR250 the so called Energiecontainer and belongs to Deutsche Reichsbahn and has the wrong colors for the time period (and it's driving in the wrong -imperialistic- part of gemany)-just for fun-... All (or the most) locomotives of DR had beside of the older green ones this much nicer and darker bordeaux-red instead of traffic-red or orient-red which came later after reunification and the merge between DR and DB mostly after overhauls or retofits.It's hard to find any pictures, but there are still some original paintet loco's around.Here is an example of an model showing the correct color scheme.

btw this model costs more then 300 Euros !!!

Please correct this, many thanks !

Maybe you can keep the other other paint and make some kind of liveries...

I'd rather they focused on aviation facilities, landmarks and optimisation before checking the trains are correct personally. I'm not sure why there's so much discussion around trains and this map to be honest.

[OneEyeRoss]

55 minutes ago, Punkmonkey22 said:

I'd rather they focused on aviation facilities, landmarks and optimisation before checking the trains are correct personally. I'm not sure why there's so much discussion around trains and this map to be honest.

Because for many of us, this was, or is, home.  And when you fly over a place you KNOW, it helps with the immersion if the little things are correct.

[MiGCap1]

50 minutes ago, OneEyeRoss said:

Because for many of us, this was, or is, home.  And when you fly over a place you KNOW, it helps with the immersion if the little things are correct.

+1!

And because there are a lot of aviation nerds out there who are rail fans, too, as I have experienced. (I include me.) 

[Punkmonkey22]

3 hours ago, OneEyeRoss said:

Because for many of us, this was, or is, home.  And when you fly over a place you KNOW, it helps with the immersion if the little things are correct.

That's great, and I do agree about immersion. But I don't think having the right type of trains or cars on the road should be a priority at this stage. That seems more like something to look at after phase 2 releases.

[Volator]

On 4/12/2025 at 10:15 PM, Beta Sokol said:

The map represents the late 80's

According to the screenshots of Frankfurt EDDF it's rather a very early 1980s map.

[Beta Sokol]

Sorry guys, i just don't want discussions about necessity of things, details are important. DCS lacks of so many assets, it's EMPTY and BORING. They throw out module after module, yeah another grey plane, deal with it ! NO !

For instance, can you imagine Sperenberg airbase without the An 12, ok there is a mod, but just too simple (nice smokelayer!!!), the scrappy washed out greyish Il 20 -missing-, we have the An 26 but not the RTR, An 24  -missing-,

Gross Dölln (Templin) airbase without an up to date 3D model of the Su 17, every plane in unique camo, Großenhain the same with MiG 27,

Where is all the ground equipment, all the special trucks driving around on an airfield.

We need asset packs or modders for this cold war era for WarPac...

Play with your grey plane and throw AMRAAMS and have fun !

[Silver_Dragon]

On 4/14/2025 at 2:34 PM, Beta Sokol said:

Sorry guys, i just don't want discussions about necessity of things, details are important. DCS lacks of so many assets, it's EMPTY and BORING. They throw out module after module, yeah another grey plane, deal with it ! NO !

For instance, can you imagine Sperenberg airbase without the An 12, ok there is a mod, but just too simple (nice smokelayer!!!), the scrappy washed out greyish Il 20 -missing-, we have the An 26 but not the RTR, An 24  -missing-,

Gross Dölln (Templin) airbase without an up to date 3D model of the Su 17, every plane in unique camo, Großenhain the same with MiG 27,

Where is all the ground equipment, all the special trucks driving around on an airfield.

We need asset packs or modders for this cold war era for WarPac...

Play with your grey plane and throw AMRAAMS and have fun !

Assets has not build by a Map team, need build by Asset teams, and actualy, Ugra-Media has none confirm you own "Assets team / Assets pack". Diferent tools and diferent building methods (TDK vs SDK). On fact, none previous map from ED or 3rd parties has your "atrezzo" export to Assets.

Update: UM has confirmed a assets pack and a assets team.

Edited April 22 by Silver_Dragon

[Punkmonkey22]

5 hours ago, Beta Sokol said:

Sorry guys, i just don't want discussions about necessity of things, details are important. DCS lacks of so many assets, it's EMPTY and BORING. They throw out module after module, yeah another grey plane, deal with it ! NO !

For instance, can you imagine Sperenberg airbase without the An 12, ok there is a mod, but just too simple (nice smokelayer!!!), the scrappy washed out greyish Il 20 -missing-, we have the An 26 but not the RTR, An 24  -missing-,

Gross Dölln (Templin) airbase without an up to date 3D model of the Su 17, every plane in unique camo, Großenhain the same with MiG 27,

Where is all the ground equipment, all the special trucks driving around on an airfield.

We need asset packs or modders for this cold war era for WarPac...

Play with your grey plane and throw AMRAAMS and have fun !

Bit confused here.. you state you want the correct train, but then go on to say you want correct military assets for the era? One team can only work on so much at a time, it makes sense to focus on the military stuff in what is called Digital COMBAT Simulator. They have plenty of time to focus on fleshing out correct civilian assets once the map is fully released, it won't affect gameplay for the vast majority of the playerbase if the wrong train or car is used.

 

Also unsure about the "Grey Plane" comment. The last 10 releases in DCS were the OH-58, CH-47, F-4E, F-15E, KA-50 v3, MB-339, Mirage F1, AH-64, Mosquito & MI-24P. One "Grey Plane". One.

Half of those fit the Cold War era you are asking for more assets in...

And in the future modules, nearly all are Cold War too! F-100, G-91, A-7E, F-104, Mig-29A.....

[Silver_Dragon]

1 hour ago, Punkmonkey22 said:

And in the future modules, nearly all are Cold War too! F-100, G-91, A-7E, F-104, Mig-29A.....

A-6E, F-15C, etc... 

[DieFeldflasche]

Am 14.4.2025 um 15:34 schrieb Beta Sokol:

Sorry guys, i just don't want discussions about necessity of things, details are important. DCS lacks of so many assets, it's EMPTY and BORING. They throw out module after module, yeah another grey plane, deal with it ! NO !

For instance, can you imagine Sperenberg airbase without the An 12, ok there is a mod, but just too simple (nice smokelayer!!!), the scrappy washed out greyish Il 20 -missing-, we have the An 26 but not the RTR, An 24  -missing-,

Gross Dölln (Templin) airbase without an up to date 3D model of the Su 17, every plane in unique camo, Großenhain the same with MiG 27,

Where is all the ground equipment, all the special trucks driving around on an airfield.

We need asset packs or modders for this cold war era for WarPac...

Play with your grey plane and throw AMRAAMS and have fun !

I do agree on the point that dcs really lacks the assets and goodlooking AI-planes to really flesh out the setting.

However this is not necessarily a Task for ugra media and I am unsure if the agressive tone of your post was necessary.

 

P.s.. I do also think period (and GDR/FGR models on the respective parts of the border!) would be a great touch