Windows 11 . Multiple screens not staying placed

SKYWARRIOR · May 14

Hi. I have windows 11 running a 45 : Coursair screen, 27" Dell screen for Discord etc and three Win Wing DDI's for an F18 set up.

I had to re install DCS because of a glitch in Re shade after the last small update.

The problem was not apparent straight after but has since started an old issue of Window not retaining the screen layout of 5 screens including the DDI set up. Each time I reboot it moved the DDIs and the order of the DDI screens and makes them landscape and they need to be portrait .

When I move onto SIM App pro which connects the screens to DCS I also have to reorder them and whilst the system works when re set this is not the way it should be.

Any help welcome

SKYWARRIOR · May 18

Hi, I have been given a tip by a flying friend that Windows does not like the movement of USB plugs from an original position.

In order the attach a many devices directly to the motherboard ( especially it would seem the Win Wing DDI's `) I have been moving the leads from the original position, perhaps for instance where a lead was a little shorter and a bit tight and swapping them around.

As you all probably know already and I did not, that this is a recipe for problems. The answer was the pull out all plugs and restart with just screen and keyboard and then carefully decide where each plug should be and then DONT move it.

Seems to work and has solved my problem I THINK !!!

silverdevil · May 18

7 hours ago, SKYWARRIOR said:

Hi, I have been given a tip by a flying friend that Windows does not like the movement of USB plugs from an original position.

In order the attach a many devices directly to the motherboard ( especially it would seem the Win Wing DDI's `) I have been moving the leads from the original position, perhaps for instance where a lead was a little shorter and a bit tight and swapping them around.

As you all probably know already and I did not, that this is a recipe for problems. The answer was the pull out all plugs and restart with just screen and keyboard and then carefully decide where each plug should be and then DONT move it.

Seems to work and has solved my problem I THINK !!!

good to hear you (seem to) have sorted it. you may also try powered hub. i have had experienced USB issues like this. USB power is not very strong and too long of a cable can cause issues. and guids of devices may change moving them around.

FlyingPony · June 10

probably already found this, but

1. make sure 'retain screen position (or something similar) is checked in windows settings / display or display / multiple monitors

2. you have to create a monitor profile in you SavedGames/DCS/Config folder.

make sure you change the name: (' name of profile here ')

3. after launching DCS, go to the Settings screen (before flying or anything else).

near the top left there is a drop down, pic the file you named from #2.

copy one that is there and use it as a template. There's a lot of good tutorials on YOUTUBE.

I wrote this from memory so hopefully it's close enough to figure out :).

SKYWARRIOR · Tuesday at 01:09 PM

Hi, Here we go again and just when I thought I had this tamed its back. After a Micrsoftupdate I had a sound issue and then the screen refresh rate figures in the corner of my main monitor started to flash from 100 to 120. ( despite the fact the main screen is designed for 240 refresh I assume the Wing Wing instrument screens ar the lowest denominator). I ended up at 120 and all WAS fine until update. So I have removed the latest July update nad updated my Graphics Invidia card to the 1st July update, although it was updated about 6 weeks ago. The computer supplier of the machine now 8 months old is doing a memory check and this will be available tomorrow when I return home. SO:

Unplugging the usb screens and switching off and re boot and plug in one by one does not work
small screen motivs revert to the side of the main screen even after being saved for position . Worked before !
Nvidia card updated
Microsoft update back dated ... No difference
I can proceed through to Sim app pro and play but reboot sets the screen landscape and out of position.
Sometimes Sim App Pro cannot set the screens from its path in the route because the original Windows 11 screens are wrong so it wont recognise them to move forward
I updated Dispaly driver used by Sim App Pro and used the cleaner for it ....No difference.

I have a new 1000w power supply which seemed to be part of the previous solution ...Am I asking too much of this and does it have to be bigger ?

silverdevil · Tuesday at 01:30 PM

15 minutes ago, SKYWARRIOR said:

Hi, Here we go again and just when I thought I had this tamed its back. After a Micrsoftupdate I had a sound issue and then the screen refresh rate figures in the corner of my main monitor started to flash from 100 to 120. ( despite the fact the main screen is designed for 240 refresh I assume the Wing Wing instrument screens ar the lowest denominator). I ended up at 120 and all WAS fine until update. So I have removed the latest July update nad updated my Graphics Invidia card to the 1st July update, although it was updated about 6 weeks ago. The computer supplier of the machine now 8 months old is doing a memory check and this will be available tomorrow when I return home. SO:

Unplugging the usb screens and switching off and re boot and plug in one by one does not work

small screen motivs revert to the side of the main screen even after being saved for position . Worked before !

Nvidia card updated

Microsoft update back dated ... No difference

I can proceed through to Sim app pro and play but reboot sets the screen landscape and out of position.

Sometimes Sim App Pro cannot set the screens from its path in the route because the original Windows 11 screens are wrong so it wont recognise them to move forward

I updated Dispaly driver used by Sim App Pro and used the cleaner for it ....No difference.

I have a new 1000w power supply which seemed to be part of the previous solution ...Am I asking too much of this and does it have to be bigger ?

sorry to hear you are having issues again. i think it is best to try to get just your normal monitors working to your liking. then add the other items one at a time. also. it is very important to get all the hardware recognized by windows. and being an IT guy, you should always keep windows updated. any problem with an update can be corrected or later there will be another update to correct a previous update. MS tries to be generic because they cannot possibly know about all the gadgets. also it is the 3rd party that is responsible for their stuff. with that in mind, see if the 3rd party has updates.

SKYWARRIOR · Tuesday at 10:19 PM

Thank you for the interest.

Here is the latest info:

Memory test 4 hours seems to have passed
Enclose two screen shots of WND 11 display setting pages. The left is what appears when first loaded and the right is what "Sim App pro" wants to see in order to run the DDi screens which work perfectly if you complete the setup you can play the game ! You slide the images and set them to portrait and save them in position, except they dont save position.
However the Windows 11 settings do NOT remain after restart in the three below graphic they revert to "Up on the right".
Also the Bios page appears about every other re boot saying its perhaps a "Safety mode moment " to be addressed . The only thing I can think I have not done is update the "Tuf Gaming " bios although this was done 6 weeks ago appx

Edited Wednesday at 09:08 AM by SKYWARRIOR
personal info included top left

silverdevil · Wednesday at 11:33 AM

13 hours ago, SKYWARRIOR said:

However the Windows 11 settings do NOT remain after restart in the three below graphic they revert to "Up on the right".

this is likely where your problem lies. question. does the system always give you the results you wish when windows display settings are properly configured?

MAXsenna · Wednesday at 11:52 AM

There's a free app that you can use in Windows, where you can have several profiles and save layouts. Don't remover the name.

Also remember to place all the screens, so there be minimal "empty" space as DCS renders the whole rectangle.

Cheers!

Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk

SKYWARRIOR · Wednesday at 01:06 PM

Yes

When configured in the proper format, it all works fine except the refresh counter changes sometimes on the main Coursair 45" screen.

It has worked fine for about 2-3 months since the last lesson in plugging in usb plugs from a clean unplugged computer was learned.

These usb plus the main control packs like throttle and stick and PTO2 are all into a supplementary powered usb board powered from the main supply and approved for this system

Simm app pro reads a framework of screens as set out in its graphic interface and takes the info on from there . If that info is wrong it fails uptsream

MAXsenna · Wednesday at 02:04 PM

55 minutes ago, SKYWARRIOR said:

Simm app pro reads a framework of screens as set out in its graphic interface and takes the info on from there . If that info is wrong it fails uptsream

Yeah, I know. Windows is Windows, and if it shifts around the screens, why not use a program that can shift them back. You do know that you don't need Simapp Pro, right?

SKYWARRIOR · Wednesday at 02:14 PM

So how do I configure this lot without Sim App pro ?? I would be keen to understand.. What alterantive program can I use for this please ?

Edited Wednesday at 02:16 PM by SKYWARRIOR

MAXsenna · Wednesday at 02:33 PM

So how do I configure this lot without Sim App pro ?? I would be keen to understand.. What alterantive program can I use for this please ?

If you know what to do, you can use Notepad++. Simapp Pro just makes it easier for you initially. Helios can also do that. The settings are in files, which can be manually edited.
But like I wrote, your main issue is when the screens shift around. There is a program, Display wiz or something, that can save the layout in profiles. If solve the layout issue first.

Cheers!

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Arcc · Wednesday at 02:44 PM

Hi

I have not this problem. I use two display and two MFD winwing.

I don’t know if it can help.

Christian.

After a long conversation with the winwing support (one month ago) it is necessary to launch ED not as an administrator.

MAXsenna · Wednesday at 03:14 PM

26 minutes ago, Arcc said:

it is necessary to launch ED not as an administrator.

I assume you mean DCS, not ED. Shouldn't really matter in any case as DCS only displays/exports according to the monitor file. It doesn't manipulate the screen layout at all. Windows is in control of that, and that's the issue here.

Arcc · Wednesday at 03:37 PM

Oh yes DCS. But with Winwing MCP see this topic.

https://forum.dcs.world/topic/370848-me-too-problems-after-update-14-8222/#comment-5622578

or

https://forum.dcs.world/topic/370896-bugfreeze-erratic-behavior-after-dcs-29148222-march-19-2025-update/#comment-5622574

I know that you are a great host of this forum.

I really struggle even with an online translator. Sorry

Chris

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