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There wee a few times in wich USAAf and RAF planes took off from carriers, the most famous was of course the Doolittle raid it would be nice to be able to take off from the Essex or carrier from any plane that would either have a short enough take off run even though it might not be able to land 

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Dollittle raid was launched from USS Hornet by 16 modified B-25 Mitchell, that only take off form them, others as P-40, and P-47 was carried aboar and use as ferry to reach near bases when that aircrafts take off from carriers and landing on land bases. If launch outside a base range, has lost on the sea.

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Conventional aircraft, such as the Curtiss P-40 Warhawk, Republic P-47 Thunderbolt, Supermarine Spitfire, and Hawker Hurricane, were often delivered to overseas air bases by aircraft carrier. They would be loaded onto an aircraft carrier in port by cranes, flown off the carrier at sea near their destination under their own power, and land on a friendly airfield ashore. These were not usually combat missions but in some cases the launched aircraft provided air cover for the ship, and the aircraft could not be recovered by the carrier.

By the WW2 carriers missions, that has "transport".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_carrier_operations_during_World_War_II

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6 hours ago, Silver_Dragon said:

Dollittle raid was launched from USS Hornet by 16 modified B-25 Mitchell, that only take off form them, others as P-40, and P-47 was carried aboar and use as ferry to reach near bases when that aircrafts take off from carriers and landing on land bases. If launch outside a base range, has lost on the sea.

Sure these were special occasions with many limitations, but it's up to the mission maker to construct the scenario.

I do understand the reasoning behind some of the ME limitations like only carrier aircraft on carriers and ships only on the sea, but they don't need to be enforced all the time. Things like that should be toggles ideally so that unusual situations can be created when the need arises.

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16 hours ago, Silver_Dragon said:

Dollittle raid was launched from USS Hornet by 16 modified B-25 Mitchell, that only take off form them, others as P-40, and P-47 was carried aboar and use as ferry to reach near bases when that aircrafts take off from carriers and landing on land bases. If launch outside a base range, has lost on the sea.

By the WW2 carriers missions, that has "transport".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_carrier_operations_during_World_War_II

Thanks for the link. This is exactly why it should be an option. It was done historically it might not have been common, but it would be fun 

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9 hours ago, Exorcet said:

Sure these were special occasions with many limitations, but it's up to the mission maker to construct the scenario.

I do understand the reasoning behind some of the ME limitations like only carrier aircraft on carriers and ships only on the sea, but they don't need to be enforced all the time. Things like that should be toggles ideally so that unusual situations can be created when the need arises.

Based on my observations playing around with the corsair and my Blacksheep Heritage Alpha strike

The F4U will operate just fine from ESSEX, KUZNETSOV and TARAWA.

It's a hit and a miss from modern carriers when you do get them to work they will take off from the catapult instead of making deck runs. The Corsair could use a bridle

F4U-1A Corsair 16 of VMF-422 hooked up to a catapult and ready for launch from the escort carrier USS Kalinin Bay CVE-68 Tarawa – January 24, 1944

 

The catapult on ESSEX doesn't appear to be functional so the corsair can only make a deck run. 

The coding could test for the following 

 

CATOBAR (Shuttle/Briddle), jet deflector (Y/N),

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you can take off using a catapult and land using an arrestor hook. The original ESSEX configuration had a coupleof  catapults but no jet deflector, which were added with the SCB-27 refits done after WWII right now ESSEX's catapults are not operational I'd like to see that change 

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ski jump STOBAR - 

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Your ability to operate from a Kuznetsov-class carrier or a similar vessel that is not (yet ) in DCS core

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STOBAR (distance) 

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You can take off from a carrier with a deck run, but use an arrestor hook to land. In short, the current Essex configuration. The Corsair and Skyhawk would both fall into this category and as they could both use the bridle I'd also like to see rules concerning deck runs on newer carriers  

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short takeoff (distance) / short landing (distance) /* short field  operations is the last thing that should be checked, and they should be tested separately. since some place could do one but not the other

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lastly 

Vertical Takeoff / Vertical Landing /*  

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