BSB2

[DavidE]

Has anyone taken delivery of the BSB2 yet, if so how does it perform. I see that deliveries are starting to trickle through.Mine is in the later batch as I ordered it with the halo strap

[7Coolhand]

I’m waiting for mine, ordered a 2e in march so it should be here soon.

[Ganesh]

July 4th, still have a little while to wait...

News from yesterday's newsletter sounds promising:

"...As we further develop the underlying eyetracking models and resolve OpenXR bugs, we expect to release advanced performance enhancing features such as Foveated Rendering and Quad Views. This means that Beyond 2e can enable performance intensive games like iRacing, DCS, and Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 to run more easily on PCs."

[Gryzor]

Has anyone here already been able to put some real hours into the BSB2?
I’m mainly flying in DCS, currently on a Quest 3 with VD, but also considering a Pimax (Crystal/Crystal Light).

Would you recommend the Beyond over those options in terms of clarity, comfort and overall sim experience?

[oz555]

19 hours ago, Gryzor said:

Has anyone here already been able to put some real hours into the BSB2?
I’m mainly flying in DCS, currently on a Quest 3 with VD, but also considering a Pimax (Crystal/Crystal Light).

Would you recommend the Beyond over those options in terms of clarity, comfort and overall sim experience?

I've had mine (BSB2E} for a week now. Got it pretty well dialled in for DCS and Iracing. Coming from A G2 running 13700K/4090. Happy to answer any questions. 

Edited 5 hours ago by oz555

[Gryzor]

5 minutes ago, oz555 said:

I've had mine (BSB2E} for a week now. Got it pretty well dialled in for DCS and Iracing. Coming from A G2 running 13700K/4090. Happy to answer any questions. 

Thanks! I’ve read some Reddit posts saying the clarity or sweet spot is significantly lower than the Quest 3, which doesn’t really match what the publicity claims.

How do you find it compared to the Q3 in terms of sweet spot and overall performance (especially running DCS and iRacing)? Have you also tried Virtual Desktop with the Q3, and if so, how does the BSB2E stack up in smoothness and clarity?

Also curious if you notice any optical distortions around the edges, or if the image feels more consistent than on the Quest 3/Pimax.

[oz555]

I haven't tried Pimax or Quest 3 so can't comment on the sweet spot other than it's a huge improvement over the Reverb. I've been running a G2 for five odd years at 60hz without reprojection at around 3600 per eye resolution plus OXRTK with 60% CAS. This provided a very good image in general. The BSB2 I'm running at 3560 per eye in DCS with Quadviews making up for the extra 15 frames, so I'm getting similar performance with a much crisper image using the same DCS settings. Once they get the foveated eye tracking online will have a lot more headroom to supersample.

Without any experience with the super high resolution headsets from Pimax etc, all I can say is that the clarity is impressive and I'm very, very happy with how DCS looks in the headset, particularly in night missions. Yes there is persistence/glare in certain scenes, which is a real shame, but for me only annoying if I focus on it. Definitely loses marks though on this point.   

With Iracing I was running the G2 at 90hz, so with the extra 15 frames to spend I've been able to crank up the resolution on the BSB2 to 4300 per eye. Looks incredible and tbh I couldn't ask for much more clarity wise. No noticeable difference in smoothness going from 90hz to 75hz.  

Tracking I'm working on. I only bought one base station which is ok for Iracing, but for DCS it gets jittery when looking sideways more than 45 degrees or so. Have ordered another base station which hopefully should be enough. 

Best thing about it is the comfort. The headset is so light I can just put it on and leave it on then do all the settings, alt tabbing and faffing that sims demand in Steam VR dash. As someone who needs to use reading glasses this is a major QOL improvement over the G2. 

I haven't tried Virtual Desktop. 
 

[Gryzor]

why its a major QOL for the fact that someone who needs use reading glasses? i don't understand

[oz555]

As the BSB2 is so light and comfortable, I can put it on and remain that way for an entire session doing all the desktop stuff and browsing etc through Steam Dash. With the G2 being quite heavy in comparison it just wasn't comfortable enough to do this.  I was forever headset off, glasses on, glasses off, headset on etc