MiG-29S guidance SNP-2

[MA_VMF]

The MiG-29 has a SNP-2 (TWS) mode for firing at 2 targets. However, the radar captures the target at STT. Which shouldn 't be the case . Since such a guidance principle is not possible for the R-77

[AeriaGloria]

It is possible. I’ve seen small sections of manuals for planes that use R-77, and it works with STT, even if the radar is only receiving the position of the enemy and sending the datalink signal to R-77. It is how J-11A fires it. 

[MA_VMF]

8 часов назад, AeriaGloria сказал:

It is possible. I’ve seen small sections of manuals for planes that use R-77, and it works with STT, even if the radar is only receiving the position of the enemy and sending the datalink signal to R-77. It is how J-11A fires it. 

The R-77 does not operate in STT mode when firing at 2 or more targets.Only TWS

Edited Wednesday at 12:00 PM by MA_VMF

[AeriaGloria]

14 hours ago, MA_VMF said:

The R-77 does not operate in STT mode when firing at 2 or more targets.Only TWS

Then what is your question? You say something about fire or guide in SNP 2 is wrong but you also mention radar is in STT?

Edited Thursday at 02:02 AM by AeriaGloria

[MA_VMF]

7 часов назад, AeriaGloria сказал:

Then what is your question? You say something about fire or guide in SNP 2 is wrong but you also mention radar is in STT?

The fact is that in the game, when attacking two targets, the radar continues to guide them in STT mode and warns them about launching at the enemy until the missile head is activated. This should not be the case. The R-77 cannot be conducted in STT, only in TWS

[draconus]

[AeriaGloria]

10 hours ago, MA_VMF said:

The fact is that in the game, when attacking two targets, the radar continues to guide them in STT mode and warns them about launching at the enemy until the missile head is activated. This should not be the case. The R-77 cannot be conducted in STT, only in TWS

Yes it can be used in STT mode. Think of it as missile not working like SAHR/fox 1, but the radar using STT to send out datalink

 Do you have some source saying it can’t be used STT? AMRAAM can

[MA_VMF]

11 часов назад, AeriaGloria сказал:

Yes it can be used in STT mode. Think of it as missile not working like SAHR/fox 1, but the radar using STT to send out datalink

 Do you have some source saying it can’t be used STT? AMRAAM can

The R-77 cannot be used in STT, it is not possible.Especially for two targets.The radar is not capable of maintaining STT on two targets at once, it is not a PESA

20 часов назад, draconus сказал:

Nonsense

[draconus]

35 minutes ago, MA_VMF said:

The R-77 cannot be used in STT, it is not possible.Especially for two targets.The radar is not capable of maintaining STT on two targets at once, it is not a PESA

Are you sure that it's STT mode specifically on 2 targets? MP test? Track?

[AeriaGloria]

2 hours ago, MA_VMF said:

The R-77 cannot be used in STT, it is not possible.Especially for two targets.The radar is not capable of maintaining STT on two targets at once, it is not a PESA

Nonsense

Okay but then is your problem with TJ radar or the R-77? Where have you read or seen that R-77 cannot be used STT? 

[MA_VMF]

1 час назад, AeriaGloria сказал:

Okay but then is your problem with TJ radar or the R-77? Where have you read or seen that R-77 cannot be used STT? 

rather, the problem is in the radar of the aircraft. In the AA rocket design book and in the operating manual

[AeriaGloria]

35 minutes ago, MA_VMF said:

rather, the problem is in the radar of the aircraft. In the AA rocket design book and in the operating manual

Rocket design book? Operating manual of what? 
 

All I know is R-77 definitely can work off STT. That’s how it was fired from J-11A, Su-30MKK, Su-30MK2

[MA_VMF]

22 часа назад, AeriaGloria сказал:

Rocket design book?

yep

 

22 часа назад, AeriaGloria сказал:

Operating manual of what? 

aircraft

 

22 часа назад, AeriaGloria сказал:

All I know is R-77 definitely can work off STT. That’s how it was fired from J-11A, Su-30MKK, Su-30MK2

proof

[AeriaGloria]

6 hours ago, MA_VMF said:

yep

 

aircraft

 

proof

Well you don’t have proof R-77 can’t be fired from STT 

The J-11A radar only has a STT mode. That’s all it can use to fire. The N-001 was not capable of TWS. And it is what ED and Deka corroborate. 
 

Su-30MKK/MK2 N-001V/N-001VE can be capable of TWS firing of missiles as a customer option. But it must’ve been not purchased becuase their manuals mention that radar switching to STT upon firing 

Im sorry but I can’t share the manual, but I have seen it. It is just not mine to share, and I will mention nothing else I saw from its contents. 

If you ever want to share your sources or the relevant parts such as the R-77 rocket design manual you mention, I’ll be happy to take a look at them. 

Edited 5 hours ago by AeriaGloria

[MA_VMF]

6 часов назад, AeriaGloria сказал:

The J-11A radar only has a STT mode.

Nonsense because the radar has a scan mode on the aisle, and the P-77 does not work in STT.,

nullIt says so here