Moza ab9 with winwing grip

[TED]

I recently picked up a new moza ab9 base and the mh16 stick and I have to say I’m really impressed with it. It is a huge improvement to general immersion and feeling. I honestly could not go back to using a traditional base again. 
I am trying to use some different grips and picked up the vpforce rhino winwing adapter and the vkb adapter. Both connect ok. The vkb is the simplest as you still use the black box, so all buttons are controlled through vkb software. However using this solution I lose the ability to control mechanical trimming of the base as well as force trim release, which is a bit of a non-starter for me.

With the winwing, it connects ok however the ww16 stick selection in moza cockpit does not work at all. If I select another grip from the dropdown it does work! So I select the Virgil alpha grip and it will sense some of the buttons but not all. Very weird.

Has anyone managed to use a winwing grip on the ab9 and get full functionality of all the buttons? 

[Dawgboy]

5 hours ago, TED said:

I recently picked up a new moza ab9 base and the mh16 stick and I have to say I’m really impressed with it. It is a huge improvement to general immersion and feeling. I honestly could not go back to using a traditional base again. 
I am trying to use some different grips and picked up the vpforce rhino winwing adapter and the vkb adapter. Both connect ok. The vkb is the simplest as you still use the black box, so all buttons are controlled through vkb software. However using this solution I lose the ability to control mechanical trimming of the base as well as force trim release, which is a bit of a non-starter for me.

With the winwing, it connects ok however the ww16 stick selection in moza cockpit does not work at all. If I select another grip from the dropdown it does work! So I select the Virgil alpha grip and it will sense some of the buttons but not all. Very weird.

Has anyone managed to use a winwing grip on the ab9 and get full functionality of all the buttons? 

Why did you not use the MH16 stick?

If you fly helos, is there a profile that simulates a cyclic?

[Mr_sukebe]

25 minutes ago, Dawgboy said:

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If you fly helos, is there a profile that simulates a cyclic?

Yes, there is

[TED]

I want to add an extension and already have a winwing stick with extension, so would save having to buy the moza z-axis one. 

I do have the mh16 and it works great so I may just use a warthog extension if that works.

Edited September 20 by TED

[TED]

Has anyone tried using an mh16 grip with a warthog extension or virpil and the cables used for a them? This would be an ideal solution as well, as I could use the mh16. Unfortunately seems like moza doesn't sell any kind of cables themselves. The virpil extension with cable is only 25 Euros and seems pretty decent. If it works might be even worth buying the curved version.

Edited September 20 by TED

[MAXsenna]

Has anyone tried using an mh16 grip with a warthog extension or virpil and the cables used for a them? This would be an ideal solution as well, as I could use the mh16. Unfortunately seems like moza doesn't sell any kind of cables themselves. The virpil extension with cable is only 25 Euros and seems pretty decent. If it works might be even worth buying the curved version.

There's nothing special about the cables. It's easy make at home if you got rudimentary skills.


EDIT: So yes, any TM compatible extension/cable should work fine with the grip.

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[Mr_sukebe]

Ref extensions, I tried a 20cm Virpil, and preferred it without

[TED]

22 hours ago, Mr_sukebe said:

Ref extensions, I tried a 20cm Virpil, and preferred it without

Yeah 20cm is a bit too long. I'm just gonna go for 10cm. Basically I need to mount the base a bit lower so it fors better with my NLR rig and add a little more precision for rotary stuff. 

[joso]

On 20/09/2025 at 10:38, TED said:

Di recente ho acquistato una nuova base Moza AB9 e lo stick MH16 e devo dire che ne sono rimasto davvero colpito. È un enorme miglioramento in termini di immersione e feeling generale. Onestamente, non potrei più tornare a usare una base tradizionale. 
Sto provando a usare impugnature diverse e ho preso l'adattatore VPForce Rhino Winwing e l'adattatore VKB. Entrambi si collegano correttamente. Il VKB è il più semplice, perché si usa comunque la scatola nera, quindi tutti i pulsanti sono controllati tramite il software VKB. Tuttavia, con questa soluzione perdo la possibilità di controllare il trim meccanico della base e il rilascio forzato del trim, il che per me è un po' un problema.

Con il Winwing, si collega correttamente, ma la selezione degli stick WW16 nel cockpit di Moza non funziona affatto. Se seleziono un'altra impugnatura dal menu a tendina, funziona! Quindi seleziono l'impugnatura Virgil Alpha e rileva alcuni pulsanti ma non tutti. Molto strano.

Qualcuno è riuscito a usare un'impugnatura Winwing sull'AB9 e a sfruttare appieno la funzionalità di tutti i pulsanti? 

No problem for me

[MAXsenna]

@joso Sweet! How long is from the top of the mounting on the base and the bottom of the grip?
Is it comfortable when deflecting in any direction, and are your legs in the way?

Cheers!

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[joso]

37 minuti fa, MAXsenna ha detto:

@josoFantastico! Quanto dista dalla parte superiore del supporto alla base e dalla parte inferiore dell'impugnatura?
È comodo da usare in qualsiasi direzione e le gambe non danno fastidio?

Grazie!

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Thanx, From the base, floor, to the top of the stand, before the Moza adapter, it measures 57 cm.
From the base to the base of the handle, including the adapter, it measures
63.5 cm.
To use it, I reduced the Moza's axes to 60% to avoid leg problems. 

 

 

 

 

[MAXsenna]

52 minutes ago, joso said:

From the base to the base of the handle, including the adapter, it measures
63.5 cm.

Damn! You're trying to set a record or something?

Thanks for the last picture, it illustrates it very well. Very cool! I did mean the height, not the whole pipe. It looks like 30cm, maybe 40cm? I'm asking because I might do something like that when I'm back in the game.  

Cheers! 

[joso]

5 minuti fa, MAXsenna ha detto:

Accidenti! Stai cercando di stabilire un record o qualcosa del genere?

Grazie per l'ultima foto, lo illustra molto bene. Molto bello!Intendevo l'altezza, non l'intero tubo.Sembra 30 cm, forse 40 cm? Lo chiedo perché potrei fare qualcosa del genere quando tornerò in gioco. 

Saluti! 

Se vuoi ti mando i disegni e puoi stamparli come preferisci.

37cm and 45cm at the base of the stick where the wrist rests

Edited September 22 by joso

[MAXsenna]

If you want I'll send you the drawings and you can print it as you like

Oh, cool! Thanks!

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[joso]

7 minuti fa, MAXsenna ha detto:

Oh, fantastico! Grazie!

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Li metto qui disponibili.

I use basic level fusion, the file is not very clean

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ByHeJTIJM75N_uFgxlD8v0U311Y7wpHt/view?usp=sharing

Edited September 22 by joso

[MAXsenna]

24 minutes ago, joso said:

Li metto qui disponibili.

I use basic level fusion, the file is not very clean

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ByHeJTIJM75N_uFgxlD8v0U311Y7wpHt/view?usp=sharing

No, problem!

Grazie mille! 

[Irpus]

Thanx, From the base, floor, to the top of the stand, before the Moza adapter, it measures 57 cm.
From the base to the base of the handle, including the adapter, it measures
63.5 cm.
To use it, I reduced the Moza's axes to 60% to avoid leg problems. 
 
 
 
 

And what kind of support are you using under the base?

Inviato dal mio Tapatalk

[joso]

12 hours ago, Irpus said:

And what kind of support are you using under the base?

Inviato dal mio Tapatalk
 

https://makerworld.com/it/models/1522288-moza-ab9-ffb-dof-reality-adapter-plate?from=search#profileId-1726685 modded

Edited September 24 by joso

[nessuno0505]

Just bought a AB9 base, that's my solution.

P.S. is there a profile for the UH-1H so that the force trim works as IRL?

[Dawgboy]

42 minutes ago, nessuno0505 said:

 

Just bought a AB9 base, that's my solution.

P.S. is there a profile for the UH-1H so that the force trim works as IRL?

How do you like it for helos?  Realistic cyclic?  How about fixed wing?

[nessuno0505]

It arrived yesterday. I've mounted it on my simpit (I had to saw a pole with the Dremel), configured (it seems to work and telemetry is recognized), set DCS (all my stick inputs have to be reassigned since I come from the non-ffb warthog base and the warthog grip on the moza base is a new device for DCS). In all this, I just had time to test with the a-10c2 and it seems to work, but I can not give opinions yet, still too early. The helicopters are the main reason I bought it. Unfortunately, of the 3 helos I own (ka-50-3, uh-1h and mi-8) in the moza software there's a default profile only for the mi-8 (and for the mi-24 I do not own), so I had to download custom profiles shared on the Moza discord. I hope force trim works, since it's the main reason of my purchase (I've also added the damper on my pedals to have a more realistic rotor wing experience). I'll let you know as soon as I try.

[Dawgboy]

17 minutes ago, nessuno0505 said:

It arrived yesterday. I've mounted it on my simpit (I had to saw a pole with the Dremel), configured (it seems to work and telemetry is recognized), set DCS (all my stick inputs have to be reassigned since I come from the non-ffb warthog base and the warthog grip on the moza base is a new device for DCS). In all this, I just had time to test with the a-10c2 and it seems to work, but I can not give opinions yet, still too early. The helicopters are the main reason I bought it. Unfortunately, of the 3 helos I own (ka-50-3, uh-1h and mi-8) in the moza software there's a default profile only for the mi-8 (and for the mi-24 I do not own), so I had to download custom profiles shared on the Moza discord. I hope force trim works, since it's the main reason of my purchase (I've also added the damper on my pedals to have a more realistic rotor wing experience). I'll let you know as soon as I try.

I have the same pedals with damper.  I'll be waiting for your assessment.  Thanks!