Supplemental mouse click and scroll mappings with Meta Quest Hand Tracking & Hand controller to interact with DCS world virtual cockpit

[hannibal]

Hello

I am a DCS enthusist and a PointCtrl user

i find that the PointCtrl finger tracker devices have allowed me to descently interact with the DCS world virtual cockpit

I like that the IR tracked finger controllers will move the in game cursor and i can press a button to perform a function, with PointCtrl substituting as mouse control.

as a VR user, i also have the meta quest touch controller, and have the hand controllers enable in game 

I find that performing functions with the hand controllers to be cumbersome.. pulling the hand controller trigger displaces the pointer, or trying to physcially rotate the hand controller up-side down to reach somewhere awkward in cockpit makes it diffifuclt to perform a function.

for me PointCtrl just works.

I ask Eagle dynamics if we can have the best features of both PointCtrl and VR motion hand controller implemented so that VR users like me can more intuitively interact with DCS world high fidelity modules!

what am i asking specifically?

VR hand controllers: have the pointer (OR THE TIP of the INDEX FINGER) of the in game hand controller function like the normal mouse cursor (as it can be the white dot or yellow cross). in addition to this, have UIlayer controllers to map a "left-click", "right-click", middle click, srcoll up and scroll down function..  i feel it would be more convienent to, for example, i am using my right motion controller  with my right hand to point at a switch, and with my left hand using my HOTAS or some kind of joystick to press a button, and if there was a "left-click" assignement mapped to my joystick in which i can press with my left hand.

VR hand tracking: ***EVEN BETTER*** as mention above, with avent of VR headsets to have hand tracking feature, it would be great that a pointer, or the tip of the index finger on the in game virtual hand would function like the normal mouse cursor... and left click, right click and so on facilitated by a joystick, should DCS World Control settings under UIlayer to have  "left-click", "right-click", middle click, srcoll up and scroll down button assignment..

I THINK THIS WOULD BE VERY FUNCTIONAL and DOABLE.... and allow DCS world pilots to better interact with the amazing DCS full fidelity modules..

 

 

Edited yesterday at 01:47 AM by hannibal

[nessuno0505]

I have a Quest 3 and a PointCTRL and I think quest 3 finger tracking is too imprecise to work with tiny switches like the ones in cockpit. I'd prefer an improved tracking with pointCTRL (a pointCTRL v2 with a better sensor maybe?).

[hannibal]

ok, i tried to see what was possible in DCS world.

i found that there are mappings for left click right click and scroll assignable to joysticks.

with a VR motion controller, it fairly works.. i havent tried the scroll function.

when it comes to interacting with levers, i find that left click isnt grabbing or holding on to the lever...possible that the joystick input is pulsing instead of a un-interruped input 

unfortunately, meta link app did not pass hand tracking over to PC..so when i am in the PC meta link home environment, i do not see the hand tracking... i have to see if hand tracking works over virtual desktop

[mkel2010]

14 hours ago, hannibal said:

 

unfortunately, meta link app did not pass hand tracking over to PC..so when i am in the PC meta link home environment, i do not see the hand tracking... i have to see if hand tracking works over virtual desktop

Hand tracking most definitely works with Virtual Desktop. I use an add on called HTCC (link below) which allows me to interact with all the buttons and switches in the cockpit - although it sometimes is a bit finicky. It also works with PointCTRL as well.

https://htcc.fredemmott.com

[hannibal]

11 minutes ago, mkel2010 said:

Hand tracking most definitely works with Virtual Desktop. I use an add on called HTCC (link below) which allows me to interact with all the buttons and switches in the cockpit - although it sometimes is a bit finicky. It also works with PointCTRL as well.

https://htcc.fredemmott.com

Sounds great!! Im going to take a look. 

[mkel2010]

2 minutes ago, hannibal said:

Sounds great!! Im going to take a look. 

I also use Voice Attack and Viacom Pro in VR. Over time, I've created about 375 Voice Attack commands for the F-16 that I commonly use in place of activating switches and buttons.

[hannibal]

if the virtual desktop thing actually is functional to have hand tracking, i am thinking of chopping up a mouse just to have native mouse control along with the had tracking.

i just want to use something that is functional, and demostrated it.

not everyone has pointctrl... though i as lucky to acquire two sets. and it works great.