Why hasn't this campaign been updated?

[Theadler77]

I think its a great campaign, but having to buy it bothers me quite a bit when I see golf courses and beach front resorts and modern day vehicles and Humvees. Really ruins it for me. If it were a free campaign then who cares. But for my very hard earned money, I expect quite a bit more effort. Just lazy work. 

[Darcaem]

 

[MAXsenna]

I think its a great campaign, but having to buy it bothers me quite a bit when I see golf courses and beach front resorts and modern day vehicles and Humvees. Really ruins it for me. If it were a free campaign then who cares. But for my very hard earned money, I expect quite a bit more effort. Just lazy work. 

You nuts? This is one of the best campaigns for the Huey there is. And why on earth do you expect it to be free? ED didn't pay for the development.
Another point is that, whenever there are bugs reported due to updates and changes in DCS, @Reflected scrambles to adapt the errors introduced in the core game with workarounds.
Can't remember the Humvees to be honest, can't only remember Willy's, you'll also mostly fly over the jungle, so if you really want to see the golf courses, you want to see them as golf courses. There are no golfers around, only dudes with AKs.
This campaign is worth every cent I paid, and I can't wait the get a new rig to replay it.
Wait for a sale then. You won't regret it unless you've already made up your mind to have regrets.

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[Reflected]

"Lazy work?" Dude, you've got to be kidding me...there's about 12 months of full time work in it, not counting the endless hours of keeping it up to date for every patch. Many would argue it's a steal for 12 bucks. You can disagree, of course. The campaign was released 3-4 years before we got the WW2 Marianas map, and I can not and will not "move" it to another one. Why?

- A mission cannot be "moved" from one map to another, it's a rebuild from scratch. taking months to set up and test

- Nearly none of the important places/ buildings that play a key role in the campaign are present on the WW2 version of the map, take Andersen AFB for example.

- Consequently, I'd have to come up with new mission ideas that suit the places present on the WW2 map

- Because of this I'd need to re-record thousands of voice overs, redo briefings, kneeboard maps, nearly all visuals

- On the plus side I could use the skins, yay. But nothing else.

So the effort would be equivalent to making a new campaign from scratch, and if I'd want to do that, I'd just make a new campaign from scratch, rather than calling it a "free update" to an existing product.

Also, what's your problem with Humvees? We don't have Vietnam era vehicles in DCS, I can't work with what we don't have. I could use the WW2 jeep, but then it would introduce another payware requirement which would be very unfair to do retroactively.

If you want to fly around the WW2 Marianas map, you're more than welcome to play around in the mission editor. I'd definitely purchase a Huey campaign made for that map.

 

[MAXsenna]

29 minutes ago, Reflected said:

Also, what's your problem with Humvees? We don't have Vietnam era vehicles in DCS, I can't work with what we don't have.

Wait, what?! Humvees?! This is priceless! A true testament to your design and story skills that draw you in real quick. I could've sworn there were Willys larping as MUTTs. I'll be damned!  

[Sedlo]

UNBELIEVABLE! THIS 'IMMERSIVE' HUEY CAMPAIGN IS A JOKE! I PAID FOR VIETNAM, NOT A RETIREMENT VILLAGE!

I HAVE JUST COMPLETED THE FIRST THREE MISSIONS OF THE NEW UH-1H CAMPAIGN, AND I AM ABSOLUTELY APPALLED AT THE LEVEL OF GROSS NEGLIGENCE DISPLAYED BY THE  CAMPAIGN DESIGNER.

I DIDN'T BUY A $10 CAMPAIGN AND SPEND HOURS DOWNLOADING AND SETTING UP MY COLLECTIVE FOR THIS KIND OF AMATEUR-HOUR PERFORMANCE. WHEN I FLY THE HUEY, I AM CHASING THE IMMERSION—THE GRIT, THE DANGER, THE HISTORICAL FIDELITY! I AM LOOKING FOR THE ATMOSPHERE OF A DESPERATE, JUNGLE-CHOKED CONFLICT!

AND WHAT AM I GETTING? I AM GETTING A TOURIST TRAP!

 

THE GOLF COURSE INCIDENT

DURING MY LOW-LEVEL INSERTION INTO WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A HOSTILE LZ (LANDING ZONE), I WAS FORCED TO MOMENTARILY SKIM A CLEAR-CUT AREA. AND WHAT DID MY EYES BEHOLD?

A PERFECTLY MANICURED, PRISTINE, 18-HOLE GOLF COURSE.

IN 1968?! IN THE MIDDLE OF A CONFLICT ZONE?! NO! ABSOLUTELY NOT! A GOLF COURSE IS THE VISUAL EQUIVALENT OF A LOUD, JARRING COMMERCIAL INTERRUPTING A SERIOUS FILM. IT COMPLETELY SHATTERED THE FRAGILE HISTORICAL CONTEXT THAT MY MIND WAS FIGHTING TO MAINTAIN. I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FOCUSED ON ENEMY ACTIVITY, BUT INSTEAD, I WAS MENTALLY CALCULATING THE HANDICAP OF THE PIXELATED NPCS WHO WOULD PLAY THAT COURSE.

IT INSTANTLY CHEAPENED THE ENTIRE OPERATION. MY CREW CHIEF EVEN JOKED ABOUT LANDING FOR A QUICK NINE HOLES. MY IMMERSION WAS VAPORIZED!

 

THE UNFORGIVABLE SUV BLIGHT

BUT THE MOST GRIEVOUS, HISTORICALLY INACCURATE, AND UTTERLY INSULTING PIECE OF DIGITAL GARBAGE IS THE VEHICLE TRAFFIC!

FLYING LOW OVER THE FEW PAVED ROADS—WHICH, BY THE WAY, ARE FAR TOO PERFECT AND NEED SOME SERIOUS SHELL-HOLE DISTRESSING—I SAW SEVERAL MODERN, BLOATED, FOUR-DOOR SUVS DRIVING AROUND!

HMMVS! IN A HUEY CAMPAIGN SET DECADES BEFORE THESE ROLLING LAND YACHTS EVEN EXISTED! THIS ISN'T JUST A MINOR OVERSIGHT; IT'S AN ACT OF HISTORICAL VANDALISM! IT PULLED ME OUT OF THE COCKPIT SO VIOLENTLY I NEARLY DUMPED THE COLLECTIVE! MY ENTIRE FLIGHT PROFILE WAS RUINED TRYING TO UN-SEE A GREEN HUMMER PUTTERING ALONG A ROAD THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CRATERED AND PACKED WITH ANCIENT MILITARY TRUCKS!

 

THE TRUE DISGRACE: LACK OF ATMOSPHERE

I PAID FOR BLOOD, SWEAT, AND ROTOR WASH. I PAID FOR THE PALPABLE SENSE OF DANGER AND ISOLATION. WHAT I GOT WAS AN ENVIRONMENT THAT LOOKS LIKE A CHEAP SET FOR A B-GRADE 90S ACTION MOVIE.

THE DEVELOPERS NEED TO IMPLEMENT AN IMMEDIATE HOTFIX THAT:

1. REPLACES ALL GOLF COURSES WITH HISTORICALLY ACCURATE, OVERGROWN RICE PADDIES OR HEAVILY MINED SCRUBLAND.

2. SCRUB THE ENTIRE ASSET LIBRARY OF ANY VEHICLE MANUFACTURED PAST 1975. IF IT ISN'T A BEAT-UP JEEP, AN M-35, OR A BIKE, IT DOESN'T BELONG!

3. DULL THE COLORS. EVERYTHING IS TOO VIBRANT. THE JUNGLE NEEDS MORE SHADOWS. THE ROADS NEED MORE MUD. THE COLOR OF THE ENTIRE MAP IS TOO CHEERFUL. I NEED OPPRESSION!

MY DEDICATION TO REALISM IS ABSOLUTE, AND I EXPECT THE SAME FROM THE DEVELOPERS. I’M CANCELING ALL MY PRE-ORDERS UNTIL THIS IS FIXED.

THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE!

SIGNED,

Karen Karensdottir

 

Edited 7 hours ago by Sedlo

[MAXsenna]

@Sedlo

Your CAPS are forgiven, KAREN!

Thanks for a good Sunday laugh!  

Edited 7 hours ago by MAXsenna
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[Jayhawk1971]

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[MAXsenna]

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Excellent! Well, we'll definitely need to this one when Nam drops.

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