Smoke rotates in VR

[Killg0re NL]

WMR, Reverb G2, Win10

See, example (Big smoke, but also visible with burning vehicles)

 

RotatingSmoke.miz LastMissionTrack.trk

[draconus]

It was always like that in VR. Same with fire and contrails.

Edited Thursday at 10:14 PM by draconus

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

Yes and they turn on and off depending on where you look, and they render differently (or not at all) in the left/right eye.

[ChariotOfFLAME]

This seems to be common among flat screen games that added VR support later in life: something about the engine not expecting the camera to be able to have 6 DoF

[Killg0re NL]

21 hours ago, draconus said:

It was always like that in VR. Same with fire and contrails. Even the trees rotate.

I twas reported en solved before. But u fortunatly its back.

(Not sure if it even was 100% gone)

[draconus]

17 hours ago, ChariotOfFLAME said:

This seems to be common among flat screen games that added VR support later in life: something about the engine not expecting the camera to be able to have 6 DoF

It's either omission or wrong implementation.

Interestingly it reacts to left/right and up/down view change but not for lateral head tilt.

You can see the effect also in HL:Alyx.

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

And if you enable dynamic foveated rendering, even more weirdness happens. I do hope these issues can be fixed…

[Czar]

These effects are made with 2D sprites. Their axis are locked with the rendering POV (player's camera), or you would see even weirder things like cardboard effect.

The alternative is full volumetric effects on everything like the clouds are. But a number of people would maybe lose VR capability as it would become more expensive. Like this:

 

No. It can never go away. It is the rendering characteristics. If you felt that it went away it is because you didn't face it for a while.

Let's also remember ED is not MS in size.

[draconus]

25 minutes ago, Czar said:

These effects are made with 2D sprites. Their axis are locked with the rendering POV (player's camera), or you would see even weirder things like cardboard effect.

Bad implementation, no excuses.

[Czar]

3 minutes ago, draconus said:

Bad implementation, no excuses.

Show a good one.

[ChariotOfFLAME]

It is weird that clouds, smoke from aircraft, contrails, landing tire smoke, and explosion smoke/ debris are all volumetric, but smoke from fires isn’t

Edited Thursday at 07:53 PM by ChariotOfFLAME

[Moxica]

Slightly related; Those smoke coloumns shows one of the the most obvious visual quality difference between Reverb and Pimax.
In Pimax' they look absolutely stunning.
Rotating or not..

Edited Thursday at 09:42 PM by Moxica

[draconus]

2 hours ago, ChariotOfFLAME said:

It is weird that clouds, smoke from aircraft, contrails, landing tire smoke, and explosion smoke/ debris are all volumetric, but smoke from fires isn’t

Afaik only clouds and fog is volumetric. All the rest are sprites so weirdly connected to camera angle.

[ChariotOfFLAME]

Pretty sure that they all use the same system and are all volumetric, but I could be wrong