Scientist Built a Home Made Magnetic Generator 24 KW Free Home Electricity

[A.S]

Okay, so you're saying they got extra energy from -somewhere-, but in turn that energy is no longer available in this somewhere ... sure. Okay.

 

As I said, I presented to you a method of testing for this. Unless I really missed something, none of these experiments have been done in this manner.

 

If it has, then by all means I defer to your greater knowledge in this field - point me to where it has been done in the manner I described. This method is necessary - maybe not to you, but it is for me :)

 

Im not the expert...its you...all i do is showing you cases which makes me cruious and skeptic but same time interested....therefore i ask YOU to help me understanding those results.

Im sure there is way more about their works and results once looked for, but i can not sum it up in scientific fashion for you in order to make a state-affair out of it.....what you can do is go into that stuff...see what you understand from...

[GGTharos]

No, I didn't ask for you to sum it up for me in a scientific fashion - I am asking for us to agree on a test method.

 

Since it seems this must come down to reproducing their bench models, I suppose I might be able to do so with some NiMH batteries and a motor and a few resistors and a couple other assorted things - but I really shouldn't have to - they should have done the test my way for the ultimate proof - just IMHO ;)

[A.S]

Sure i agree on that part.....it must be re-do-able....best from other persons indepentend...but in all cases that happened.

I really have to research to pick on that one...i know from previous browsings..that many ohters hooked on those results and replicated same experiments.

 

I keep broswing and collecting and digging....you can also if like...and we meet again...this post wont disappear anytime soon ..i guess :D

[A.S]

http://www.icehouse.net/john1/intro.html

 

This pretty much sums it up, and confirms Kashes explanations of Dark-, Anti- and Matter , and "Potentials or Loads"....not fully, but comes close to his extractions.

 

I have to add this link in order for proper re-production or research:

 

http://www.cheniere.org/toc.html

 

follow all links there...

 

http://cseti.homesite.net/bearden.rm quick realplayer vid

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[nscode]

I have to add this link in order for proper re-production or research:

 

http://www.cheniere.org/toc.html

 

 

 

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[A.S]

Here is another very interesting case:

 

"Left-Handed materials"

 

First of all a quick read from physicsworld.com

 

http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/7046

 

Let´s see what we find in Wikipedia:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamaterial

 

hmm intersting enough....quote: "defying physics..." f+++ the what? :huh:

 

now lets see what accidently poped up in the news regarding energy applications with left-handed materials

 

http://pesn.com/2009/09/04/9501564_Schwartz_ERR_Fluxgenerator/

 

 

tztztz...stuff out there :suspect:

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[A.S]

This one i must (or forget) to post...

 

It is a little bit on higher levels of understanding but fair enough.

 

http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=-988496603742502119&ei=14OhSs-BEaCY2ALlzJzsBA&q=john+bedini&hl=de&dur=3#docid=-5738531568036565057

 

Background to his person:

 

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Thomas_Valone

 

edit: for GG...listen to 32:50 minutes in that video.... and let me say this. There is Tom Valone saying this.... and you here saying whatever......what you think i and all others believe more? ;)

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[kaiserb_uk]

mad.

 

quite, quite mad.

[A.S]

If you refered to me...i must correct ...not mad...but "not normal" :smilewink:

[GGTharos]

OMG ... Tom Valone is definitely getting no respect from me. His speed limit graph did him in.

 

It was always known you could have supersonic flight - this wasn't a physics barrier ... it was an engineering barrier. Any artillery man or someone who designed weapons knew that you can have supersonic motion.

 

That he can't see the difference is just ... omg. O.o

[A.S]

Looks like your concisousness is refusing to learn....you get stuck in one miss-spelled line just to justify your ignorance...denying FULLY who that person is..and what he speaks about overall.

 

That is ridicilous...am i arguing with kids here? geeez. Einstein cheated his wife, what hasnt made him unworthy in his deliverances :)

 

Compared to him in terms of science you are "nothing" ...

 

Speeking of speed: to shakle your believe-systems again of absolute knowledge and mighty stuff.....information, not signal, has been experimental and proofen transmitted over light-speed. In Germany and in Los Angeles. Get over it.... ;)

Edited September 4, 2009 by A.S

[monotwix]

What I find interesting is the fundamental difference between gravity and other forces like for example: if one was to turn off the earths magnetic field instantly, it would produce an electromagnetic wave which would slip away with the speed of light for infinity which implies that earths magnetic line has an ending somewhere in the universe, whereas if one was to turn the gravitational force off it would disappear instantly which implies that the earths gravitational field is endless and therefore instantaneous where no time or distance is relevant for such force except the influence upon it’s strength I.e. it wouldn’t matter where you are in the universe you would still have that minute instantaneous connection.

 

Electrons and photons have a tendency to be in more than one place at the same time some thing like non locality phrase.

 

We can see that, time space gravity matter energy all interact with each other in realms of detectable and theoretical.

 

It doesn’t have to be proven in order for some thing to exist.

The governing system is the adapted form of law of which the participants don’t have to agree but follow the consequences.

 

The evolution in science for the last 100 years is a major leap.

 

What else, the tool development in order to use it.

The fraction of the existing universe could spell the number of 10 to the power of 100 which implies that it was even more massive at the beginning by that number and makes it so stable in terms of energy.

Does the missing link in the universe development theory exist?

Some scientists say that, yes, and if you don’t like it, I’ve got another hundred theories. (not me, the wards of full time served scientists)

 

Well I’ve got to run to catch my beer, c ya.

[A.S]

Interesting thoughts....

 

I have my own theories if it goes really beyond book science. I try to draw my own conclussion and same time i try to adapt in excistent known physics without violating it - too much. But thats the good part of phantasie, you can construct, destruct and progress. I like alternative ideas, wild approaches, yet not sci-fi, still on bases of physics.

I remember someone comparing the fact that light may act as particle or as wave depending if you observe it or not (that alone is wilder then my own dreams lol) with smoke rings. Those you blow smoking cigarettes.

They move through space as waves (or vortex) but yet they can bounce off of surfaces keeping shape and chaning direction as they would have been a particle in toto ......

Many interesting things are to come, and maybe it requires unguilty child-like playing, free of boundries to discover so much more in nature.....

We all learnt that there is no such thing as perpetuum mobile, including me as long as i was teached anything in physics...but yet new days, new science discovers fully agreed on and official violations

of some of those laws in particular cases and admits it......(video above. min 32:40 and also other publications)...perpetuum laws are violated, as we would cheat nature, but we dont, just showing there were just parts we haven´t understood before.

That is what i was trying to say from the beginning of this post.

Edited September 5, 2009 by A.S

[GGTharos]

And have you tried to imagine why this ZPE extraction stuff might not work? ... you know, part of this science business is to try to disprove stuff, including the existing model - this is an important part.

 

So I ask you ... have you even attempted a thought experiment concerning this? I'll give you a hint ... IBM constructed a Casimir force actuator.

[A.S]

And have you tried to imagine why this ZPE extraction stuff might not work? ... you know, part of this science business is to try to disprove stuff, including the existing model - this is an important part.

 

So I ask you ... have you even attempted a thought experiment concerning this? I'll give you a hint ... IBM constructed a Casimir force actuator.

 

I dont know if you are refering to this case

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1559579/Physicists-have-solved-mystery-of-levitation.html

 

if so, yes i know it.

 

What you just said is at the end, what i struggled from the very beginning

 

....part of this science business is to try to disprove stuff, including the existing model - this is an important part....

 

And yes, i attempted. Im not blond or someone who has some euphoria because he thinks he invented the wheel a 2nd time. Surely i follow those new things i presented VERY critical. What you think how much digg digg digg search search browse browse confirm i did, before i post such things.

[A.S]

And have you tried to imagine why this ZPE extraction stuff might not work?

 

Because it did and does work. I gave you many links which show that, including a publication-.pdf and the attempt to combine ZPE with QM what was a big struggle in first place.

 

All you have to do is ... search for accredited instutions .. their latest works in that field....and read up. You might not find a ZPE powered nose-hair shaver..but you will find enough to read.

Edited September 5, 2009 by A.S

[GGTharos]

Nope, I was referring to a nanomachine actuator.

 

And actually I did find a nice paper that summarised work on the Casimir force quite nicely. The funny thing is that, by nature of the force represented therein ... you cannot extract energy from the ZPF, though you certainly can make mechanical devices based on it ;)

[A.S]

Nope, I was referring to a nanomachine actuator.

 

And actually I did find a nice paper that summarised work on the Casimir force quite nicely. The funny thing is that, by nature of the force represented therein ... you cannot extract energy from the ZPF, though you certainly can make mechanical devices based on it ;)

 

How funey is that :D its hard to extract a "direct" energy what you cant even measure...believe me..im on this for long time...just out of interest..and i really have some wierd ideas connecting all the dots i found till now.

[GGTharos]

You can't? ... funny, the Casimir effect itself lends itself nicely as a measuring tool for that force.

 

It's funny that you can't measure something, but you can still make it do stuff outta nowhere! :D

[A.S]

You can't? ... funny, the Casimir effect itself lends itself nicely as a measuring tool for that force.

 

It's funny that you can't measure something, but you can still make it do stuff outta nowhere! :D

 

The Casmir effect is a measurable effect also based on it, but as far i know you cant measure the ZPE energy flow, conversion and fluctuations however you wanna name it. Thats is/was the big problem in first place.

You can realize effects obviously with mysterious source or reason, but you cant directly spot it with known instruments.

 

You really have to walk through all the links i provided...slowly and good, even some of them may appear "wierd" at first view...walk through them....make parallel own researches.....and sum up your

owb picture.

Sometimes you read about mystical devices...on other places you find more "relyable" documents assisting that mysterious device...etc etc........

 

I try to find some solid material on it...i mean really solid.....hard ..here and ther i pick somthing up...but the most funey part is...that Edward Leedskalnin's and Keshe´s works convinced me most with their absolutly differnt approach of electromagnetism and matter. Both are very dubios men in general, but their explanations are so overlaying and convincing in nature, that its hard to deny

 

add: this is a very nice place to read on ... http://www.calphysics.org/index.html

Edited September 5, 2009 by A.S

[nscode]

Yeah.. something is true because someone is sooo good at making you believe that it is. Now you're just in the "evolution is wrong because I say so" teritory.

 

Now, as soon as I get me some free time, I'm building a nice little wind turbine out of Kinder Surprise yolks, and a couple of old CD tray drive motors to charge my phone with it. Now THAT is free energy :)

[A.S]

Seems like you are just bubbling words spontanius out of emotional state without clear following. I m not BELIEVING anything, all i did is quoting FACTS. If YOU believe it or not, well thats up to your intelligence in research.

 

It is a very flat statement btw...but i would love to see the creative part, your CD tray motor ;)

Edited September 5, 2009 by A.S

[nscode]

Keshe´s works convinced me most with their absolutly differnt approach of electromagnetism and matter. Both are very dubios men in general, but their explanations are so overlaying and convincing in nature, that its hard to deny

 

:)

[A.S]

that trhows you off...doesnt it :lol:

[topol-m]

:)

 

that trhows you off...doesnt it :lol:

 

^^^ Lol A new reality show is shaping up. Gotta get me pop corn and settle myself comfortably :laugh:

Edited September 5, 2009 by topol-m