DaveRindner Posted October 7, 2009 Posted October 7, 2009 I have gotten all right in landing. I can land gently on ships, and farps. I still from time to time have unexplained in-flight rotor disintegration, and dynamic roll. I get intermittent dynamic roll when landing on rough terrain. Slow gentle touchdown of main gear, then as soon as nose gear touchdown, the aircraft rolls to the side and rotors disintegrate when they strike the ground. This does not happen, on farps, roads, ships, and tarmac. Why only on terrain such as grass. Second, during maneuvering, with heavy rudder, I sometimes experience rotor intermeshing. Where the lower rotor cones high enough to intermesh and strike top rotors. The whole rotor assembly disintegrates in flight with predictable consequences. I am not certain why this happens. DaveR
kam Posted October 7, 2009 Posted October 7, 2009 ..Second, during maneuvering, with heavy rudder.. Is that right rudder? If so, there is your problem, don't do it :thumbup: Intel 5820k | Asus X-99A | Crucial 16GB | Powercolor Devil RX580 8GB | Win 10 x64 | Oculus Rift | https://gallery.ksotov.co.uk Patiently waiting for: DCS: Panavia Tornado, DCS: SA-2 Guideline, DCS: SA-3 Goa, DCS: S-300 Grumble
159th_Viper Posted October 7, 2009 Posted October 7, 2009 Landing on Terrain is a known issue - Dependant on where you land, it can be done. Just have to be very very gentle in some areas. Also helps to Throttle Down once on the Ground to minimize the 'roll' you experience. Counter it with the Cyclic, throttle down and your landings should be better. As regards to Rotor Intersection, see the following search results: http://forums.eagle.ru/search.php?searchid=1759656 Many more, but should be a start. And Yeah - Do not worry about Stomping on your Rudder during High Speed/Radical Maneuvering. As long as you Bottom the Collective, you can pretty much put the Left/Right Rudder through the Floor. Most Important issue however is Trim. Not Trimmed correctly is the Root of All Evils that befall all Pilots wondering why their Flight was unexpectedly cut short. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
wickedpenguin Posted October 7, 2009 Posted October 7, 2009 Every time I see the title of one of these threads I think, "they're hitting hard right rudder at speed, aren't they?" :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
EtherealN Posted October 7, 2009 Posted October 7, 2009 Hahah wicked, yeah, I have the same thought when I see them. :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
Zakk Posted October 7, 2009 Posted October 7, 2009 Ka-50 go Ka-boom, ehhhh? I don't have ADD, but I could care less about chopper seat time right now--I am more interested in a go-fast A-10 tank killer as I have the need for speed. Gigabyte|Q6600|8GB DDR3|GTX285|Win7 64|X-65
TKMR Posted October 7, 2009 Posted October 7, 2009 Ka-50 go Ka-boom, ehhhh? I don't have ADD, but I could care less about chopper seat time right now--I am more interested in a go-fast A-10 tank killer as I have the need for speed. Really? Beause the A-10 isn't that fast... ;) Dave: When you are on the ground before you take off, go to an external view (F4, and rotate the view around so you are facing the rotor assembly) and mess with the controls. Maybe that will help you understand what's going on a bit. Or viewing your track file. =) Lead Admin/Founder of Kilo-Tango Gaming Community
kaiserb_uk Posted October 7, 2009 Posted October 7, 2009 Ka-50 go Ka-boom, ehhhh? I don't have ADD, but I couldn't care less about chopper seat time right now--I am more interested in a go-fast A-10 tank killer as I have the need for speed. HTH Yeah, you learn quite quickly to not touch the right pedal at any sort of speed.
159th_Viper Posted October 7, 2009 Posted October 7, 2009 Yeah, you learn quite quickly to not touch the right pedal at any sort of speed. Don't Mislead the Poor Chap :) As I said before - You can pretty much stomp the Right/Left Rudder right through the Floor at approx 300km/h with no Dire Consequences at all........Provided that the Collective is Bottomed Out. Go on and Try - what's the Worst that can Happen :D Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
RobC Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 This post helped me wrap my head around the concept: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=701220&postcount=10 On a slightly different topic though, is it normal to have the cyclic trimmed slightly to the left in forward flight? I'm having a little difficulty wrapping my head around how differential lift affects a co-axial helicopter in terms of cruising or high speed forward flight, it seems like I have to trim with a little bit of cyclic bias towards the left, but this results in the ball on the SAI heading towards to the right, which I would think indicates I should give it a nudge of right rudder to compensate (and as per this thread I really don't want to do that :P). In forward flight, should I have the cyclic and pedals as centered as possible or what? It isn't really covered in the manual as far as I could find.
EtherealN Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 You should have the ball centered and your attitude stable, that's pretty much the thing to look for. This may require a little bit of cyclic in either direction, but I think left was right. (I usually don't "think" about my inputs, I just do them. :P ) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
RobC Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 Scratch that, I found a ridiculously helpful thread via that magic search button cleverly hidden right in front of my face, sorry for noobie questions, so much to read :book:. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=44306&highlight=trim+forward+flight Quick answer: turns out left cyclic and right rudder is correct, just don't add too much collective or right pedal in high speed flight or your rotors do that cool trick where they scatter themselves all over the battlefield.
vortex360 Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 Second, during maneuvering, with heavy rudder, I sometimes experience rotor intermeshing. Where the lower rotor cones high enough to intermesh and strike top rotors. The whole rotor assembly disintegrates in flight with predictable consequences. I am not certain why this happens. DaveR If you're a little more careful it won't happen. Also I would not link the throttle to the collective in the control options.
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