0001 mmmhhh

[A.S]

Nah Mig29K is the one ya want.:thumbup:

 

ok, Mig-29KAB then.

[Kuky]

looks like F4 derivative... still not that good lookin... keep working on it...

[deadsmell]

looks like F4 derivative... still not that good lookin... keep working on it...

 

???

 

If thats not looking so good...................

 

How do you think the DCS lockon series looks by comparison??

 

Just curious, because to me that sim is obviously YEARS ahead of the current engine employed by ED.

[Kuky]

By what means? To me lockon effects look much better than this...terrain textures do seem nice but I still feel something is lacking and still reminds me of F4 graphics

Edited November 28, 2009 by Kuky

[Agg]

???

 

If thats not looking so good...................

 

How do you think the DCS lockon series looks by comparison??

 

Just curious, because to me that sim is obviously YEARS ahead of the current engine employed by ED.

Seriously? I think it looks very dated, and I agree with Kuky that it probably is a derivative of Falcon 4. The effects look very dated, and the ground is just a flat sattelite image...

[A.S]

it looks more realistic = it is more realistic ? :music_whistling:

[deadsmell]

interesting. :)

 

 

 

@agg I think the arenalogic guys have done a bit more than just a lay a flat satellite image over their landscape.

 

I could be wrong, perhaps that is what they have done, but when compared to similar apps like the photo realistic addons available for FSX, the quality demonstrated in that arenalogic vid, is much higher fidelity.

 

In the FSX photo-realistic addons, you dont get that kind of clarity at low altitudes. It gets really blurry, and you lose that Photo-realistic effect.

 

Even though they are 2d buildings and what not (arenalogic vid) they still have a fidelity and clarity that still gives a 3d "feel" even at low altitudes.

 

Id like to have it anyway.......

 

Even flying at low altitude the level of detail is much more life like in my opinion, and tends to have a more 3dimensional appearance to the eye even if it is in fact 2d.

 

As mentioned previously, the sensation of speed is very nice in that vid, and is something i have always felt was lacking in other flight sims.

 

Anyway its just my opinion, I happen to like what I see in that vid, and I hope that it makes its way into future flight sim developments.

 

From what I understand, Russia has some of the best Sat imagery in the world. It would be great if we could get an addon/mod for lockon/DCS that would take advantage of these images and employ them into the sim.

[Kuky]

AS, I said it doesn't look that good, looks like another F4 derivative... didn't say a word about realism.

[A.S]

AS, I said it doesn't look that good, looks like another F4 derivative... didn't say a word about realism.

 

 

Wasnt directed at you Kuky...just generally....cuz sometimes im getting bored of over and over hearing consumer-typical graphics eurphorias with no sense "eyes" for the core or any other substance.

 

Give Hawx TIR and Hotas Control...so what will it be = ? the most realistic sim cuz it looks like?...sad part is..probably even yes :doh:

[SUBS17]

AS, I said it doesn't look that good, looks like another F4 derivative... didn't say a word about realism.

 

It doesn't need to be because its a military level simulator. And it has AIFF.:thumbup:

[deadsmell]

Wasnt directed at you Kuky...just generally....cuz sometimes im getting bored of over and over hearing consumer-typical graphics eurphorias with no sense "eyes" for the core or any other substance.

 

Give Hawx TIR and Hotas Control...so what will it be = ? the most realistic sim cuz it looks like?...sad part is..probably even yes :doh:

 

and the doppelganger would be the ones pining over realism, and that their GAMES just arent REAL enough lol.

 

I myself have bored of the ego's in the flight sim community that seem to share the same elitist mentality as the mainstream gaming scene.

 

They are just two sides of the same coin.

 

Even for FAA approved simulators, there is a very small set amount of hours that a simulator can be used for actual logged hours. Its primarily used for instrumentation practice.

 

Point being that in a simulated environment, only THEORY in a controlled environment can be practiced and learned from, and for that reason, the level of training provided by simulation is quite limited.

 

Turning on your computer, and playing for a while does not mean you are in flight school. lol. Or that you are by any means qualified to fly an aircraft. lol.

 

 

In the end I want to have fun.

 

Will better graphics create a more immersive experience for the player? Without question, Absolutely.

 

Due to hardware limitations recent sims have had to compromise graphics for performance etc etc.

 

However things are getting better and better all the time.

 

Look at how good FSX can look now on a good machine with the right addons. It didnt look or perform that way when it came out. But as hardware keeps improving.........

 

Do all those pretty addons make the experience better?

Absolutely.

 

I for one am certainly not going to have any reservations about a sim simply because it has stunningly amazing graphics.

 

That being said, I dont think you can compare hawx or ace combat, as those are arcade games by design.

 

Im pretty sure Arenalogics product wasnt made with the notion of success being based on worldwide sales numbering in the hundreds of thousands, to millions of units sold, to young males in the age range of 7-19.

[SUBS17]

FYI Arenalogic are looking into making a sim for home users.:thumbup:

[Chibawang]

An additional FYI: Ace Combat and HAWX were both advertised and sold as simulations.

:protest:

[SUBS17]

FYI Arenalogic is more detailed than even OF:

 

Technology:

 

Industries leading physics engine Ageia physX ™ provides massively accelerated hardware physics enables:

 

Realistic flight model

Realistic sensor simulation

Realistic weapon effects

Realistic environment

Geo-specific terrain

 

Environment & sensors:

 

Tacticaly important realistic weapon and environmental effects include:

 

Meteorological visibility

Clouds

Wind

Detonations

Smoke

Sensor lens fokus

IR scatter

IR bloom

IR sensor gains

and more

 

Simulated subsystems include:

 

TARGETING PODs: LANTIRN, LANTIRN ER , SNIPER XR

GBU-10/12/24 LGBs,

GBU-31/32/49 JDAM,

Link-16,

ALR-69 Radar Warning Receiver,

APG-66v2 air-to-air radar,

APX-113 AIFF,

IDM,

ALQ-162 ECM Pod

AIM-9L/X Sidewinder,

AIM-120C AMRAAM,

JHMCS

and more...

 

 

Other Major features:

 

DIS,HLA compliant Networking

Integrates with other simulators and training systems

SDK to extract internal simulation data and injects events and algorithms allow scientific projects maximum flexibility.

Post mission Debrief, data recording and analysis

SCORM Learning Management System (LMS) integration option

Integrated mpeg4 video capture

Radio/voice communication over LAN or Internet on geographically dispersed systems

 

 

Military classification:

 

The system is delivered as an unclassified system, with ability to modify the dataset with classified values.

__________________

 

LMAO to even mention HAWK or ACE is a joke compared to this, :lol: it even has AIFF!:thumbup: