Kuky Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 (edited) Why? I don't know.. to cheat? Ask yourself why people do bad things in general? I just wonder how he can warp like that coincidentally when I locked him and stopped warping as soon as I dropped lock... people were doing funky stuff in FC1 so who's to say same wont happen in FC2 if it's possible? Alright, I know this is not actually have anything to do with this thread topic so never mind... I'm probably just paranoid Edited March 28, 2010 by Kuky PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
GGTharos Posted March 28, 2010 Author Posted March 28, 2010 It isn't a coincidence. The new sound engine is pretty heavy (so was the old one, I'd say) and once you lock him and he gets that warning, if his PC isn't exactly top notch he can easily start warping. He probably perceives this as stutters of low FPS. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Wilde Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 Cool, so legacy hardware turns the RWR into an über ECM tool? Sounds funky! :P
Pilotasso Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 you guys should realy test Fc2 in win7 as it seem to read somewhere the sound system was now running on a separate core and XP aint great at assigning cores. .
GGTharos Posted March 28, 2010 Author Posted March 28, 2010 This has been going on in LO since 1.00. There may be more to it than that as well - back then I recall launching a missile at someone would cause a good amount of extra bandwidth to be used, so they'd start warping. This problem has always existed in some fashion and I doubt it will ever go away. Cool, so legacy hardware turns the RWR into an über ECM tool? Sounds funky! :P [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
funkee Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 (edited) A side question, is there any way that people can be using RAM data hack to misreport their position or make them selves lag/warp in FC2.0? I dont even know what that means but why would someone go to that length?? I do. I saw one russian guy lagging as hell on the 104th Dedicated. He had 6 bandits on his six and arround him (me including), and nobody could hit him even with perfect shots. He was playing with us a few minutes, till we all went out of missiles. Finally someone got him with a gun. I reported this to the server admin, and he started to insult me. After a short conversation (only words he could say in english were "****ing американеть"), got permanently banned. I dont know what kind of cheat was that, but that wasn't due to lag for sure. Edited March 28, 2010 by funkee [sIGPIC]http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6720/avatarpolishairforce.png[/sIGPIC] system specs: mobo: Gigabyte GA-P35DS4 rev 2.1, CPU: Intel C2D E8400@4GHz, GPU: Nvidia 8800GTS 512, RAM: Kingston HyperX 4x 1GB 1066MHz Dual Channel, HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F1 640 GB x2, sound: Realtek Azalia ALC889A + SB Audigy + Dolby Digital/DTS external encoder/tuner, display: Asus VW222U 22', case: Raidmax Smilodon, headphones: Sennheiser HD650, stick: Saitek Cyborg Evo, Track IR4 Pro + TrackClip Pro, O/S: Windows 7/Vista x64
GGTharos Posted March 28, 2010 Author Posted March 28, 2010 It can be due to lag ... poor network connections or poor bandwidth is like that. But then he shouldn't be playing with others ... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
funkee Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 (edited) If that was lag, it might be engendered intentionaly to interrupt enemy lock. Is there any script in FC2 that prevent this? Edited March 28, 2010 by funkee [sIGPIC]http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6720/avatarpolishairforce.png[/sIGPIC] system specs: mobo: Gigabyte GA-P35DS4 rev 2.1, CPU: Intel C2D E8400@4GHz, GPU: Nvidia 8800GTS 512, RAM: Kingston HyperX 4x 1GB 1066MHz Dual Channel, HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F1 640 GB x2, sound: Realtek Azalia ALC889A + SB Audigy + Dolby Digital/DTS external encoder/tuner, display: Asus VW222U 22', case: Raidmax Smilodon, headphones: Sennheiser HD650, stick: Saitek Cyborg Evo, Track IR4 Pro + TrackClip Pro, O/S: Windows 7/Vista x64
GGTharos Posted March 28, 2010 Author Posted March 28, 2010 There's nothing that can prevent it. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
funkee Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 (edited) Just a simple script that remove players who lagging/losing packets. Hope this is not too much for ED programmers. :dontgetit: Edited March 28, 2010 by funkee [sIGPIC]http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6720/avatarpolishairforce.png[/sIGPIC] system specs: mobo: Gigabyte GA-P35DS4 rev 2.1, CPU: Intel C2D E8400@4GHz, GPU: Nvidia 8800GTS 512, RAM: Kingston HyperX 4x 1GB 1066MHz Dual Channel, HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F1 640 GB x2, sound: Realtek Azalia ALC889A + SB Audigy + Dolby Digital/DTS external encoder/tuner, display: Asus VW222U 22', case: Raidmax Smilodon, headphones: Sennheiser HD650, stick: Saitek Cyborg Evo, Track IR4 Pro + TrackClip Pro, O/S: Windows 7/Vista x64
RvEYoda Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 Just a simple script that remove players who lagging/losing packets. Hope this is not too much for ED programmers. :dontgetit: This can be done through the lua server interface i think. More investigation required by someone willing. S = SPARSE(m,n) abbreviates SPARSE([],[],[],m,n,0). This generates the ultimate sparse matrix, an m-by-n all zero matrix. - Matlab help on 'sparse'
Kuky Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 Willing to what Yoda? If there is a way to kick warpers straight away I'd like to assist if I can PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
Breakshot Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 you guys should realy test Fc2 in win7 as it seem to read somewhere the sound system was now running on a separate core and XP aint great at assigning cores. Can you elaborate? Mabe a link to where it was mentioned? So as far as i understand you are saying that FC2 assigns sound to run on separate core? Sounds pretty cool if its true and i would say it should benefit any OS as long as its multicore... Tim "Breakshot" Mytrofanov | C.O. of 51 ПВО / 100 КИАП Regiments | twitch.tv/51breakshot
Kuky Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 New sound engine in FC2/0 is multi-threaded PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
Breakshot Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 New sound engine in FC2/0 is multi-threaded Will FC1 soundpacks still work in this "new engine"? Sorry we are going abit OT here.. Tim "Breakshot" Mytrofanov | C.O. of 51 ПВО / 100 КИАП Regiments | twitch.tv/51breakshot
Kuky Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 I think so, the sound engine is new and you'd only be changing sound files (same as for textures) 1 PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
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