Next DCS (US) Fixed Wing Aircraft Wish List

[Spook]

Question: Have you already decided, for some of the aircraft for which we voted?

[GGTharos]

I would love to see a F-15E but it doesn't add much more gameplay possibilities over the Warthog. Basically the F15E can only carry bombs.

 

... some of which are remotely controlled. In addition, weapons such as SDBs, SLAM-ER's, AGM-159 (or 158? I forget).

 

It would be a faster A10 with AA capabablities.

 

It would be an air superiority fighter with massive air to ground capability, deep low altitude nuclear strike penetration, etc. Things an A-10C cannot do.

 

Both F16 and F18 met these conditions, but they can use a wider range of weapons thus perform a wider range of mission (SEAD,...).

 

About the only thing an F-15 cannot do is the SEAD mission. Those two on the other hand cannot do the job the F-15E does.

 

So from a long term stand point I think a F16 or F18 wouldbe a better choice offering more possibilities

 

Only for those who don't understand the differences and think of fighters only in terms of their payloads.

[Speed]

About the only thing an F-15 cannot do is the SEAD mission. Those two on the other hand cannot do the job the F-15E does.

 

I don't understand. The F-15E has an awesome ground mapping radar, and a big payload that includes a few bombs and missiles that the F-16C and F-18C/E can't carry (GBU-28, GBU-15, AGM-130) but other than that, an F-16 and F-18 could do its ground attack just fine. They just might have a harder time targetting (especially in bad weather) and you might need to send a few more of them. What in particular did you have in mind that the F-15E can do that those others can't?

 

BTW, I'm not voting in this ridiculous poll until impossible options like F-22, F-35, F-14 are removed, and F-15C, F-15E, F-16C/or A MLU, and F-18C are added. The OP obviously is biased and created this so that F-18 would come out on top.

Edited March 25, 2011 by Speed

[GGTharos]

Then I'll explain it to you:

 

Twice the firepower at twice the range, along with the possibility of striking multiple targets simultaneously within a relatively wide footprint.

 

That's in addition to nuclear delivery options and tactical attacks with things like SLAM-ER or AGM-158.

 

I don't understand. The F-15E has an awesome ground mapping radar, and a big payload that includes a few bombs and missiles that the F-16C and F-18C/E can't carry (GBU-28, GBU-15, AGM-130) but other than that, an F-16 and F-18 could do its ground attack just fine. They just might have a harder time targetting (especially in bad weather) and you might need to send a few more of them. What in particular did you have in mind that the F-15E can do that those others can't?

[Nightmare]

It's not whether something has been done before... it's whether it can be done better! :smilewink:

 

:thumbup::smartass:

[Haukka81]

Then I'll explain it to you:

 

Twice the firepower at twice the range, along with the possibility of striking multiple targets simultaneously within a relatively wide footprint.

 

That's in addition to nuclear delivery options and tactical attacks with things like SLAM-ER or AGM-158.

 

 

And air to ground mapping radar is so cool!! :pilotfly:

[Jona33]

The F-15E would be really, really cool but you have to trust the AI to either do the weapons or the flying. Either that or you don't have single player.

[Haukka81]

The F-15E would be really, really cool but you have to trust the AI to either do the weapons or the flying. Either that or you don't have single player.

 

Or just jump between the benches just like in janes f-15E, works great and ai wso is good too :thumbup:

[Jona33]

Yeah but DCS probably want it to be more realistic than jumping between cockpits

[Airbuster]

hmmm, there are a lot of hints lately that makes me think the next DCS aircraft will be F-15E...

[Jona33]

Well, if they've made the AI work I'm buying it. Might see if they do a demo first though.

[power5]

Yeah but DCS probably want it to be more realistic than jumping between cockpits

 

That would be a single position option. Meaning you could start a campaign as Pilot or RIO and not be able to switch out ever. RIO do not jump in the front seat when the pilot wants to be the radar man for a day.

[Shinigami]

That would be a single position option. Meaning you could start a campaign as Pilot or RIO and not be able to switch out ever. RIO do not jump in the front seat when the pilot wants to be the radar man for a day.

 

Well if you ask for a russian plane instead like for example SU-30MKI they have duplicated controls in bots cockpits so you can fly and bomb from the same cockpit.

 

Way not change between cockpits in f-15 i don't see the difficulties. the realism is not affected by that, they could make that if you like play with a AI weapons officer/pilot or multiplayer you chose.

 

Shinigami out....

[Jona33]

Way not change between cockpits in f-15 i don't see the difficulties. the realism is not affected by that,

 

How is the realism not affected by that. You don't jump between seats. It doesn't work

[KaspeR32]

 

How is the realism not affected by that. You don't jump between seats. It doesn't work

 

You also don't just pop into the cockpit after a briefing in real life either do you? I mean you have to draw the line somewhere between a game and real life.

 

I don't think it would be a big deal to jump between seats, and if that was an issue, it could go on a mission to mission basis. I'm not sure exactly who does what to be honest. Can the weapons/radar pilot actually fly the airplane if he wanted?

 

EDIT: if he/SHE* wanted? ;)

[Jona33]

if you created a profile with you as either a pilot OR a weapons officer, radar operator and then stick to it. If you want to change you create a new profile. But you still have the AI to deal with. Artificial intelligence might need to be a bit more intelligent before it works well. How does it change its tactics and if it was flying the plane there wouldn't be imagination. It would for example make bomb runs at the same speed and altitude each time.

[Demongornot]

F22 with supercruise and vectorial thrust can be really nice, same for F35 with vertical take off...

BUT !!! Stealth technology, moderns weapons secret data that a big wall

AND !!! if only one modern aircraft its adding, any modern aircrafts must be addind too like French's Rafale, Russian's Su-35/37 Mig 35, modern weapons and more...

 

F/A-18E can be really nice with carrier operations and why not adding F/A-18F (biplace version) cause i think a lot of people want to flying alone in the plane but so many want maybe try too to fly with a copilot in multiplayer or with AI, that can be fun and nice.

And that can be nice to have 2 vertion of te same aircraft like SU-25 and SU-25T

And the Hornet its fun cause he can flying really slow and with hight AOA.

 

And that can be a good occasion for adding more US and Russian carrier but too French British and more with Super-Etandard and AV8 Harrier... and more combat ship...

 

Just, look what happen with the wings of the Hornet when he turn...

The wing of the Hornet is really flexible, please add this effet if you do an Hornet ! =)

Edited March 30, 2011 by Demongornot

[Jona33]

I will admit the F-18 is a brilliant aircraft, could be good as a DCS aircraft. DCS will never do the F-35. Hasn't even been made yet and is way behind schedule (i think). F-18 is good

[BKLronin]

That seat change discussion made want a coop campaign that uses a friend as permanent WSO or Pilot for the whole campaign.

[Jona33]

Neat idea but that requires have someone online to play with, not ideal if you just want an instant action you need permanent internet connection.

[BKLronin]

Yes of course, every solution has it´s disadvantages but it´s way more fun than flying with AI and I think it´s not a huge problem to find suitable dates when you´re already in a squadron. Should be an option besides AI anyway.

[Jona33]

what's the ´ mean. Yeah i take your point but it's still an issue with having a bad internet connection. Anyway who says that it really is going to be a two seater.

[RichardG]

The cat is out of the bag at SimHQ, have you seen this? I was really hoping for an F15.

 

http://www.f-18c.com/

 

Domain name: F-18C.COM

Creation Date: 2011.03.21

Updated Date: 2011.03.30

Expiration Date: 2012.03.21

 

Status: NOT DELEGATED

 

Registrant ID: 3SAULC7-RU

Registrant Name: Joint Stock Company "Eagle Dynamics"

Registrant Organization: Joint Stock Company "Eagle Dynamics"

Registrant Street1: 3, Avangardnaya str.

Registrant City: Moscow

Registrant Postal Code: 125493

Registrant Country: RU

[BKLronin]

Maybe a trap :) ED gets better and better in hiding secrets. F18 is just right.

[mingocr83]

I knew it! Did a simple Whois as well, and the info is the same. The Hornet is coming!