Spades_Neil Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 (edited) As much as FC2 has improved the overall gameplay of Lock On, improved graphics, and balanced online play, there are an ever-increasing number of problems I'm coming across. I'm becoming highly disappointed with my purchase and wish I waited for the CD version now or at least a patch. I'm still discovering glitches and issues. I'm listing them as I discover them. 1. I just watched a plane land at Sochi-Adler, taxi off into the parking area, park, and then his Wingman suddenly did a U-turn and rolled across the grass to the other side of the base through several buildings and through the closed doors of a bunker hanger. EDIT: I also watched a Tu-22 try driving across the grass as well, again on Sochi. This time it didn't go across the whole airfield, but I think the AI is making a straight-line to where it plans to park. This time, however, it collided with some tanker trucks you see on the left side of the screen. I caught a screenshot of it at the last second before it crashed. Also got a screenshot of that. Plus, the third Tu-22 just stopped moving on the runway... Screenshots are as followed. 2. When I exit a mission, I can't click anywhere and leave the debrief screen. Playing it outside of full-screen seems to fix that, but opens up other problems. See #3. 3. The game functions by technically opening a new window and program every time a mission starts. As a consequence, anything running in the background or if something goes wrong and you get an error popup, you can't click anywhere nor can you click the popup. 4. Also cannot watch track replays, much less save them. I get an error popup when I try this. 5. Graphic errors where I can see through my plane. I got a screenshot of this one. 6. Plane switching is also borked, but so far has only happened once to me. I left my player aircraft behind because the pilot died, but the otherwise intact plane flew its self back to base like a zombie, and even put its flaps down on final approach (which autopilot doesn't do) when the plane suddenly dropped from the sky. 7. Control profiles are also messed up. I don't know why "BlackShark" is even there when it just breaks the game when you click on it. Either these particular LUA files should be saved elsewhere, or the files in that folder by default should be moved. 8. Not so much as a glitch as it is annoying. Any missions you make, by default, save in the "Temp" folder...? 9. This 'head movement' is also annoying, but can at least be fixed by clicking LWin+F1 or using the solution here. 10. Mission editor's "template" thing doesn't work right. Either I'm doing it wrong, or it's just broken. I go to place a template (such as a SAM site) and there's nothing in the templates... It's just blank. 11. English Cockpit does NOT make the cockpit English. There's no option for the Russian computer to speak English either. 12. There's often times no "beep" for inbound missiles either as there was before. I just hear the computer mumble something in Russian and I see text that says, "Missile, wherever o'clock high or low". I'm not sure if this is because a missile was IR, but if so, then I shouldn't receive an alert at all without a radar lock. 13. Not sure if this is a glitch or intentional, but a number of aircraft roles have been switched or removed from certain aircraft. For example, the Tu-95 and the Tu-160 can no longer perform runway attack or ground attack for example. 14. Mission editor problems again. "Unit 1 of X" is all messed up for larger planes. On the one hand, if they meant for bombers to fly Solo, fine. On the other hand, if they meant for them to have a squadron, it doesn't work. 15. As far as I know, you can only have one unit per flight, unlike in 1.0 where you could have 5, 6, 7, 8+ different units in a flight. 16. AI completely ignores my attack commands on occasion when I am editing missions. I set a Tu-22 to "Attack Point" and while two others do the same thing because I told them to, this third one just continues following the next waypoint to landing. It's only happened once, though. 17. More graphic errors. See the screenshots. I thought my scenes or textures might have been set low, but in this Free Flight mission I made, along with others, it's all the same... Unless the "enforced" options of my last map are somehow being ported over to my new one, there's something wrong here. I hope this is just going to last for the first week or two until they fix it. From what people are telling me though, Black Shark had its share of glitches when it first came out, but not "to this scale" as one person quoted. I'm still too new to Black Shark to understand it, but I would hope that it has been reasonably fixed since then. Despite all of these problems, there -are- the good things to this game, such as the new 'trigger' system brought over from Black Shark, and the much improved weapon behavior (carpet bombings are more epic than ever). Still, these issues create a huge part of the gameplay that's frustrating -everyone- I know who plays the game. It's not one or two players, either. It's a whole squadron. Edited March 30, 2010 by Spades_Neil Found more graphical errors.
h00t74 Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 Did you update your graphics drivers? What card do you have? What OS are you running as well??
71st_Mastiff Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 hey Neil the only thing broken is your report. you need to post hardware specifics and then maybe we can help you. why didn't you pop on to 104th TS? So do your self a solid and either get on TS and we can see what's up. Also check you Nvidia setting? if thats your card if so go to the tools nvida settings and go to power management and set it from adaptive to performance. "any failure you meet, is never a defeat; merely a set up for a greater come back", W Forbes. "Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts", "He who never changes his mind, never changes anything," Winston Churchill. MSI z690 MPG DDR4 || i9-14900k|| ddr4-128gb PC3200 |zotac RTX 5080|Game max 1300w|Win11| |turtle beach elite pro 5.1|| ViRpiL,T50cm2||MFG Crosswinds|| VT50CM-plus rotor Throttle || G10 RGB EVGA Keyboard/MouseLogitech || PiMax Crystal VR || 32 Asus||
Spades_Neil Posted March 28, 2010 Author Posted March 28, 2010 Did you update your graphics drivers? What card do you have? What OS are you running as well?? Yes, ATI, and Windows 7. But these are far more programming errors than the one silly graphic one. Look at the rest of them. hey Neil the only thing broken is your report. you need to post hardware specifics and then maybe we can help you. why didn't you pop on to 104th TS? So do your self a solid and either get on TS and we can see what's up. Also check you Nvidia setting? if thats your card if so go to the tools nvida settings and go to power management and set it from adaptive to performance. I'm using ATI, but listen, with these glitches there's way more to it than just a screwy video card. Aside from the graphic error I showed you guys, nothing else should be linked to the video card. There are a number of glitches that several other people are complaining about on Lockonfiles.com as well. This list are all the glitches I've experienced myself. Some claim there to be even more.
104th_Crunch Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 Many of these things you report are not bugs. They maybe are not a feature anymore, or you need help. Also, how do expect to get any help being so negative?
ED Team Wags Posted March 28, 2010 ED Team Posted March 28, 2010 (edited) I found 1 legitimate bug which we added to out tracking database. Hardly a game breaker though. I will also remind the poster of our forum rules. In particular rule 1.10: 1.10. - Product feedback and constructive criticism is encouraged when provided in a mature and courteous manner. However, feedback that is abusive, insulting or condescending is not welcome. Additionally, to bring up a particular issue repeatedly after it has already been acknowledged will be considered "trolling" - in such cases a warning will be issued to the author and the post will be removed. Edited March 28, 2010 by Wags Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544
4csNIp Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 Wags, I saw some real bugs... 1. Team Chat 2. No 6xR77 in multiplay,or how to put my payload intro SU25T ? 3. When you make mission,and save it,no more changing coalition in EDITOR
Spades_Neil Posted March 28, 2010 Author Posted March 28, 2010 (edited) I found 1 legitimate bug which we added to out tracking database. Hardly a game breaker though. I will also remind the poster of our forum rules. In particular rule 1.10: 1.10. - Product feedback and constructive criticism is encouraged when provided in a mature and courteous manner. However, feedback that is abusive, insulting or condescending is not welcome. Additionally, to bring up a particular issue repeatedly after it has already been acknowledged will be considered "trolling" - in such cases a warning will be issued to the author and the post will be removed. I have edited my post accordingly then, but there are seriously more than you may realize. Wags, I saw some real bugs... 1. Team Chat 2. No 6xR77 in multiplay,or how to put my payload intro SU25T ? 3. When you make mission,and save it,no more changing coalition in EDITOR 1: I haven't played online yet, 2: I think some players had been complaining about 6xR77s since 1.0, but 3: I have personally seen. It sometimes results in hours of hard work being wreaked because you need to change someone's sides. If this is fixed, I'd like to see it changed from 1.0 where it just deletes any objects owned by the coalition you changed. Many of these things you report are not bugs. They maybe are not a feature anymore, or you need help. Also, how do expect to get any help being so negative? True, well, that's why I edited my first post. Edited March 28, 2010 by Spades_Neil
AustinN360 Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 I have edited my post accordingly then, but there are seriously more than you may realize. 1: I haven't played online yet, 2: I think some players had been complaining about 6xR77s since 1.0, but 3: I have personally seen. It sometimes results in hours of hard work being wreaked because you need to change someone's sides. If this is fixed, I'd like to see it changed from 1.0 where it just deletes any objects owned by the coalition you changed. Chat I believe is the same keycode as Blackshark! Have you tried ` (tilde) for chat to all and Right Control + ` (tilde) for team chat
104th_Crunch Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 Wags, I saw some real bugs... 1. Team Chat 2. No 6xR77 in multiplay,or how to put my payload intro SU25T ? 3. When you make mission,and save it,no more changing coalition in EDITOR Hi Snip 1. ` (Tilde Key) for all, Rctl+` for team chat 2. This is set by the mission editor. It works different now than before, not a bug. 3. This was the case in BS. It is not a bug, it is just the way it works know.
3Sqn_TomAce Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 (edited) Moved to sticky bug thread Edited March 28, 2010 by 3Sqn_TomAce
Spades_Neil Posted March 30, 2010 Author Posted March 30, 2010 Welp, I've found some more graphic errors. At least my initial "rage mood" over FC2 is done for. I've finally remapped my controller and bagged a few kills, so I cheered up. :P
Grimes Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 I can attest to the "Sochi Parking Bug" at least for fighters concerned... Sent 4 Su-30's to land at Sochi. Both flight leads parked correctly. Both wingmen decided it would be best to park someplace else. Flight 1 wingman parked in a bunker. Flight 2 wingman decided to have a picnic between both runways. The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world. Current Projects: Grayflag Server, Scripting Wiki Useful Links: Mission Scripting Tools MIST-(GitHub) MIST-(Thread) SLMOD, Wiki wishlist, Mission Editing Wiki!, Mission Building Forum
3Sqn_TomAce Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 Replays "trk" are messed also, seen Client AC taxi at -10 feet and not follow their real in game path at sochi.
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