Graphics fail in Lock On 2.0

[Spades_Neil]

Note, this is OFFLINE gameplay.

 

... Please tell me this is just a stupid bug that will be fixed soon. -_- The ground graphics are lower than Ace Combat. I can't even tell how close to the ground I'm flying.

 

Now, I've tried getting help elsewhere with this, and no one has figured it out yet. So I'll post my little FAQ here so no one here asks and we can fix it more quickly.

 

What graphics adapter card do you have?

ATI 4800 HD, which unless it needs to update for Lock On 2.0, it should be fine. It worked for the original FC.

 

Are any map options for low scenes enforced?

First off, I have NOTHING enforced. Second, scenes effects only buildings and trees. Not ground graphics.

 

Does it do the same thing to all textures?

No. Just the standard Lock On FC terrain and the mountain terrain. Village/city terrain, airbase textures, aircraft textures, trees, and everything else are unaffected.

 

Did you edit your Graphics.cfg file?

No, aside from =RvE=Yoda's suggestion below this post. It didn't work, so I changed it back.

 

Do you have the latest driver for your graphics card?

I should.

 

Do you have the latest Windows DirectX End-User Runtimes installed?

I do. It comes with FC2.

 

Did you set your graphic settings to default?

Yes.

 

Did you enable Mipmap in the Catalyst Control Center?

It's maxed out by default, and I even turned it off... It doesn't effect my broken terrain.

 

You should change your Mipmap settings and see what happens. It get better?

No. Mipmap has absolutely no effect on it. It has nothing to do with it.

 

Did you install FC2 into it's own directory?

Yes.

 

Did you install any Mods?

None. Dude, I just got the game...

 

Does it make any difference when set to full screen mode?

Absolutely nothing.

 

What resolution are you playing at?

Frankly it doesn't matter. It does the same thing at EVERY resolution.

 

Do you have Modman installed?

Yes, but there's no graphic options for FC2 yet.

 

Do you have any 3rd party graphic mods installed?

No. I learned my lesson years ago with 1.01, and never did it again. -_-

Edited April 1, 2010 by Spades_Neil

[RvEYoda]

If you look in /Config/graphics.cfg for

 

OldLandNoise
{
   perSquare = 5;
   perSquare2 = 150;
   front = 1000;
   back = 10000;
   top = 2500;
   map_high = 20000;
   bottom = 2000;
   noisemax = 0.5;
   noisemin = 0.1;
}

 

and change it to

 

OldLandNoise
{
   perSquare = 5;
   perSquare2 = 150;
   front = 1000;
   back = [color="Red"]30000[/color];
   top = 2500;
   map_high = 20000;
   bottom = 2000;
   noisemax = 0.5;
   noisemin = 0.1;
}

 

Does it help?

It was like this for me too, please let me know if it helps

[Moa]

Anisotropic filtering is supposed to help textures at a distance, but at a distance they seem fine.

 

If Yoda's suggestion doesn't work you could try changing this setting and seeing whether it has any effect (a long shot, but it could be a problem in the Catalyst driver).

[Spades_Neil]

Does it help?

It was like this for me too, please let me know if it helps

 

*sigh* Nope, that didn't do it. :\ Even close up the terrain is like this. Was worth a try, though...

 

 

Anisotropic filtering is supposed to help textures at a distance, but at a distance they seem fine.

 

If Yoda's suggestion doesn't work you could try changing this setting and seeing whether it has any effect (a long shot, but it could be a problem in the Catalyst driver).

 

No positive effects. I already have mipmap maxed out, and the other stuff does nothing to effect this problem.

Edited March 31, 2010 by Spades_Neil

[Squid]

Looks like a mipmap fail. Similar issues here too with my 5850 .... http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=866176&posted=1#post866176

 

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=864773&postcount=9

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=866232&postcount=19

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=866158&postcount=14

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=866176&postcount=15

 

 

 

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Edited April 3, 2010 by Squid

[Spades_Neil]

Looks like a mipmap fail. Similar issues here too with my 5850 .... http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=866176&posted=1#post866176

 

 

 

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It's not mipmap. I turned Mipmap off entirely to see what would happen. My graphics would be far worse if the Mipmap was off or failing.

[Moa]

Mipmapping control is also known as "linear, bilinear, or tri-linear filtering". It selects (or generates) textures at a lower resolution, used when textures are far away. Something could be wrong if the mip-map texture is used close-in rather than the original texture (opposite of what should happen ordinarily).

Edited April 1, 2010 by Moa

[Spades_Neil]

Mipmapping control is also known as "linear, bilinear, or tri-linear filtering". It selects (or generates) textures at a lower resolution, used when textures are far away. Something could be wrong if the mip-map texture is used close-in rather than the original texture (opposite of what should happen ordinarily).

 

Ok, you don't seem to understand. Let me show you how the game looks WITHOUT mipmap on. Mipmap is on and working properly. It's the game or something in it that's busted.

 

Without MipMap

 

WITH MipMap See? I told you it makes no difference...

 

Look, the terrain is still busted. Mipmap has nothing to do with it.

[Kuky]

If Minmap is OFF or ON and you get the same it means it does not work... reinstall graphics driver, try previous version of the driver

[galagamo]

Why don't you try a good old Dfraging? It's a long shot I know, But it couldn't hurt. Aside from that, I would recommend a complete reinstall, and if your using Win7/Vista, for god sakes turn off UAC. 'User Account Control'. I'm almost certain by looking at those screen shots that it has nothing to do with your GPU, GPU driver, or your CCC settings. It is most likely a botched install

That's all I got, take it or leave it.

[Squid]

botched install is where my suspicions go too ..... like those sounds that wouldnt install in LockOn .... maybe missing some texture files, DDS abnormalities, etc i even get error messages about lua lines in blackshark folder , one time some zip wouldnt decomress, some other times other lua lines have some errors .... etc

 

(did we maybe download some beta? lol) ED input would be useful here

Edited April 1, 2010 by Squid

[Panzertard]

Why don't you try a good old Dfraging? It's a long shot I know, But it couldn't hurt. Aside from that, I would recommend a complete reinstall, and if your using Win7/Vista, for god sakes turn off UAC. 'User Account Control'. I'm almost certain by looking at those screen shots that it has nothing to do with your GPU, GPU driver, or your CCC settings. It is most likely a botched install

That's all I got, take it or leave it.

 

UAC is not to blame for this. Normal use on Vista / Windows 7 will allow you to install or play games without turning off UAC.

For incompatible products "always run as administartor" - or install the product while you're administrator and start it up the first time as Administartor will in 99% cases give the same effect as turning off UAC. (For older / legacy products).

 

Defrag, as in loading times - should'nt cause such issues - instead it shoul d cause slow performance, stutter or long loading.

 

Keep investigating fellas - it's really interesting to see the MipMapping having such a big effect on the result.

This indicates the texture is very coarse while loaded into memory.

Graphic drivers could be a factor, indeed.

[galagamo]

The one thing that leads me to believe this may not be a gpu, or driver issue is, If you look at the screen shots, you can clearly see the towns are perfectly rendered, while the outlying or "Filler scenery" is not, This is just an educated guess on my part. I still recommend disabling UAC.

[Kuky]

UAC has nothing to do with this, or defrag

[galagamo]

I know, just throwing it out there.:smilewink:

I hope you get it sorted Spades:thumbup:

[Spades_Neil]

Why don't you try a good old Dfraging? It's a long shot I know, But it couldn't hurt. Aside from that, I would recommend a complete reinstall, and if your using Win7/Vista, for god sakes turn off UAC. 'User Account Control'. I'm almost certain by looking at those screen shots that it has nothing to do with your GPU, GPU driver, or your CCC settings. It is most likely a botched install

That's all I got, take it or leave it.

 

Reinstall seems to have done the trick for now, but I want to figure out what triggered it in the first place. I had no mods or anything, it just magically stopped working right one day.

 

I'll try to recreate this glitch eventually to see what broke.

[deadsmell]

this is the same issue im having,

 

it worked fine yesterday, today its all flat and washed out looking.

 

No idea why it would have changed.

 

im using 4870 too.

[71st_Mastiff]

this is the same issue im having,

 

it worked fine yesterday, today its all flat and washed out looking.

 

No idea why it would have changed.

 

im using 4870 too.

 

Were do you have the game installed, i.e in windows 7 do not install in to the C:\Program files;

instead install into it own folder or directory, D:\Games or D:\Program files(x86), there seems to be your

C:\ directory is constantly changing in WIN7 or Vista 64 bit. security protocol?

[deadsmell]

ok i have updated new drivers,

 

that did not solve the issue.

 

 

I uninstalled, and reinstalled.

 

That did not solve the issue.

 

Please Help ED.

 

I do have a screenshot. Look at the mountains.................

 

Please Help ED......:helpsmilie:

[deadsmell]

I just uninstalled and reinstalled yet again.

 

my third install within 24 hours of purchase.

 

Still not working properly.

 

@mastiff, yeah I tried putting it in its own directory, but it makes no difference.

 

Ill check back with you guys in the morning, I know its Easter weekend though.

 

Everybody eat lots of food with your family. :)

 

Just dont forget about me. lol.

[tpisko]

Hi guys,

Moving from other post and adding my issue here too. I've got the same thing (well not as bad as deadsmell but still bad as you can see on screenshots) and I'm running nVidia and Vista64. Tried 3 different drivers, reinstalled, tweaked graphics.cfg as suggested by A.S but still nothing.

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=51555&page=2

 

Hopefully someone will sort it out.

 

Cheers fellas

[71st_Mastiff]

deadsmell did you try driversweeper for removing the catylist CCC drivers reboot and reinstall the ATI suit package again some times those ATI drivers are a pain.

 

I just uninstalled and reinstalled yet again.

 

my third install within 24 hours of purchase.

 

Still not working properly.

 

@mastiff, yeah I tried putting it in its own directory, but it makes no difference.

 

Ill check back with you guys in the morning, I know its Easter weekend though.

 

Everybody eat lots of food with your family. :)

 

Just dont forget about me. lol.

[71st_Mastiff]

Tpisko what Video card you useing ATI? if so do as I sugested to Deadsmell.

Hi guys,

Moving from other post and adding my issue here too. I've got the same thing (well not as bad as deadsmell but still bad as you can see on screenshots) and I'm running nVidia and Vista64. Tried 3 different drivers, reinstalled, tweaked graphics.cfg as suggested by A.S but still nothing.

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=51555&page=2

 

Hopefully someone will sort it out.

 

Cheers fellas

Edited April 3, 2010 by Mastiff

[deadsmell]

deadsmell did you try driversweeper for removing the catylist CCC drivers reboot and reinstall the ATI suit package again some times those ATI drivers are a pain.

 

 

I didnt use driver sweeper, but I did completely remove the drivers and the ccc, rebooted, installed, rebooted etc. I checked all the file versions of the drivers as well in the device manager to make sure each driver was installed properly.

 

I repeated this process several times, trying 10.3, 10.3 preview, 10.2, and 9.12 drivers.

 

The problem persisted regardless of the driver version. Changing drviers did not help at all unfortunately. :(

 

Sometimes removing and reinstalling those ATI drivers can be a pain though, Your right about that. Ill keep driversweeper in mind for the future, though I am sure that all drivers uninstalled, and installed properly last night when I was testing them.

 

I was up till like 2 in the morning trying to work it out. But in the end I just had to give up. Its just driving me crazy lol.

 

 

 

 

 

 

It would give me great peace of mind, if I saw an official ED response stating that they are aware of the problem, and are working to resolve it. Ive seen that stated in other threads regarding other bugs.

 

 

 

 

 

I realize there may be some perceived hostility regarding the title, and opening statements of this thread, but I hope it wont prevent the ED staff from responding.

 

I just posted my problems here as I assumed it was the appropriate place..........

 

Not to mention, one of my hands is injured quite severely, and believe it or not, it takes a pretty tremendous amount of effort just to type. So I figured id just post my issues in this thread seeing as how they seem to be similar if not the same.

 

Though the OP seems to have resolved his issues by reinstalling FC 2.0, that did not work for me.

 

Thanks for trying to help Mastiff, hopefully Well get an official solution From ED soon.

[Wags]

We are certainly listening and aware of your problem, but at this time we have no idea what may be causing it. Until we do, it will be very difficult to resolve.