Complete list of Lua files exported from server to clients

[RvEYoda]

After I saw this post I thought it would be useful if we created a complete

list of lua files which are automatically exported from server to clients.

 

This is important for servers to be able to include various custom settings,

especially since RvE is going to set up an Fc2 server quite soon on a 100/100 connection.

Currently I know very little of which files are automatically exported, but here is what

I know so far.

 

 

Automatically exported files:

• Scripts/Database/db_sensors.lua
  
• Scripts/AI/Detection.lua
  
• Config/View/server.lua
  

 

 

Lua files that can be included in mission file:

• config/export/config.lua (<51>Case)
  
• config/view/server.lua (<51>Case)
  
• config/view/view.lua (<51>Case)
  

 

 

So if anyone wants to pitch in and help me and others figure out which are the other files,

it would be great! If you make a post saying you know one more, i will add it to the list!

Edited May 17, 2010 by =RvE=Yoda

[Case]

Good initiative Yoda!

 

Can we also make a list of which files can be enforced upon clients through the mission?

 

The ones I know of so far are:

• config/export/config.lua
  
• config/view/server.lua
  
• config/view/view.lua
  

[Pilotasso]

I leave here a suggestion: Would be a good idea to setup checked files as common as possible to all servers to avoid constantly modding the game just to play. Enforcing all moddable LUA's would also be an alternative and spare us the whole annoyance of jumping servers. IS this possible?

[RvEYoda]

Good initiative Yoda!

 

Can we also make a list of which files can be enforced upon clients through the mission?

 

The ones I know of so far are:

• config/export/config.lua
  
• config/view/server.lua
  
• config/view/view.lua
  

 

Wait I thought server.lua was automatically exported, it isn't?

 

Are you saying you can also export config.lua?

[Case]

Wait I thought server.lua was automatically exported, it isn't?

That could be. I am not entirely sure. If this is the file that sets the azimuth range so one can look further back, then yes, it probably is (at least it was in FC1.12).

 

Are you saying you can also export config.lua?

Yes, you can, as part of the mission file.

[RvEYoda]

That could be. I am not entirely sure. If this is the file that sets the azimuth range so one can look further back, then yes, it probably is (at least it was in FC1.12).

I think it is used to set up 6DOF settings on many servers.

 

 

Yes' date=' you can, as part of the mission file.[/quote']

 

That is wierd, because you cannot include export.lua.

[Case]

That is wierd, because you cannot include export.lua.

Yes, if only we could include export.lua, though as has been noted before, this would be a serious security issue.

[RvEYoda]

Yes' date=' if only we could include export.lua, though as has been noted before, this would be a serious security issue.[/quote']

 

However I dont see how it is any worse than including config.lua. You can do file io from

there as well cant you?

[Case]

I leave here a suggestion: Would be a good idea to setup checked files as common as possible to all servers to avoid constantly modding the game just to play. Enforcing all moddable LUA's would also be an alternative and spare us the whole annoyance of jumping servers. IS this possible?

This would be a very good idea, and several squadrons/server admins have already discussed the possibility of making a community mod pack that would suit the needs of most squadrons/servers while giving the client the option to join any server without having to change any files.

 

At the moment there is not yet a clear consensus on what should be and what shouldn't be included in the mod. To keep the threshold for entering servers low, many servers are checking only local files. However, as time goes on we know which files need to be checked and which files can be modded, so I am confident a community mod pack will be made in the future.

[104th_Crunch]

Don't forget \Scripts\AI\detection.lua is server side as well. What ever it does anyway.

[RvEYoda]

Don't forget \Scripts\AI\detection.lua is server side as well. What ever it does anyway.

 

Ok updated the list

[Grimes]

I leave here a suggestion: Would be a good idea to setup checked files as common as possible to all servers to avoid constantly modding the game just to play. Enforcing all moddable LUA's would also be an alternative and spare us the whole annoyance of jumping servers. IS this possible?

 

It is possible, but every squad has a different opinion on what needs to be checked and what doesn't need to be checked. We need a common mod pack that has extra code to allow flexibility in what mods to allow or deny.

 

The ideal solution would be for Eagle Dynamics to make a small change to the integrity check and network.cfg file that contains which file to check. Simply put allowing "alternate" versions of the same file would be the perfect solution. For example with export.lua, several copies of export.lua are placed on the server. Each is slightly different.

 

For a server that allows for tacview and eri:

 

The first file that it checks is a default export.lua

if it fails the integrity check it goes to the next one, which has tacview enabled

if that fails it goes to one that has just ERI enabled

if that fails it goes to the next one that has tacview and ERI

 

 

As a result it keeps the security risk down of not automatically downloading the export.lua file, but it adds flexibility to what is and isn't allowed, but also is very user friendly. I believe the amount of *work* it takes for a player to join a server should be minimal and virtually non-existent. User friendliness is the most important aspect of any changes made.

 

Yes the server admins must keep up with the times for what mods are popular and what files they use, but most of us are active enough in the communities to know whats going on.

 

But if we can make a community mod pack that does use added files to essentially accomplish the same thing, I'd be game.

[RvEYoda]

I may have some really good news soon about the possibilities of an auto-modman server browser

[Sanch0]

I may have some really good news soon about the possibilities of an auto-modman server browser

 

It sounds really good. Are you thinking about something like Arma II Launcher?

[Grimes]

I may have some really good news soon about the possibilities of an auto-modman server browser

 

A quick hotfix patch by Eagle Dynamics? :music_whistling: Heck, it could be just a server only patch.

[RvEYoda]

I have been given information and sample source code from ED on how to download the master server list.

I have also been allowed to share this, though I will be restrictive since it can be abused.

 

 

What can we do with this?

 

We can create a server browser with chat and a built in mod manager.

 

 

How does this help?

 

This browser will show the same server list as the ingame one, but users will

automatically be asked if they want the browser to auto-download and install

the required modifications or "default files" to play on a server. This ensures

everyone is on a level playing field but also prevents cheating, since every

server can have their own integrity check profile, without the hassle of pilots

having to switch files before joining another server.

 

Consider it an automated version of the debated "community mod pack".

 

Better yet: Servers can have new aircraft, missiles, sensors, views, flight

models YOU NAME IT profiles, and it will all go seamlessly between all

integrity checked servers - and everyone will have the same. (It also solves

the problem with Tacview working, but live-tacview wont)

 

Best of all: It wont break anything for those that want to integrity check the

absolute stock setup, in fact it will help them, since the browser will "auto-revert"

when finished playing on a modded server (or when joining a standard one).

 

 

When?

 

I hope everyone reading this that are interested will ask around for people knowledgable in C/C#/C++ programming (.NET also!),

especially network programming and GUI programming. We will need to develop this from scratch and make it

very simple, so we need to set up a team for this project so we can get it finished ASAP :).

Edited May 18, 2010 by =RvE=Yoda

[Case]

Great news Yoda!

 

Better move this to its own thread.

 

As for programming experience; mostly C, but not gui nor networking stuff unfortunately...

[RvEYoda]

Great news Yoda!

 

Better move this to its own thread.

 

As for programming experience; mostly C, but not gui nor networking stuff unfortunately...

 

I need everyone interested and ideas from all squads, so welcome aboard if you are interested!

[Grimes]

Is this a standalone (ala hyperlobby) or something that is "built into" the current lockon multiplayer?

 

And yes, this needs its own thread.

 

I look forward to the basic functionality of compatibility between servers, but I've got plenty of other requests/ideas for overall implementation. I'll save them till it gets its own thread.

[Panzertard]

Now that looks like a very interesting project. :thumbup:

[Insanatrix]

Is this a standalone (ala hyperlobby) or something that is "built into" the current lockon multiplayer?

 

And yes, this needs its own thread.

 

I look forward to the basic functionality of compatibility between servers, but I've got plenty of other requests/ideas for overall implementation. I'll save them till it gets its own thread.

 

Pretty certain it would have to be 3rd party. If ED has supplied him with a way to download the master server list, Then you could theoretically create something like hyperlobby, as long as there is a command line to launch the game in network mode to connect to an IP.

 

Would love to help but I've only got basic C++ knowledge and a C++ book floating around somewhere in my house. took a couple classes in high school.

Edited May 19, 2010 by Insanatrix

[RvEYoda]

Pretty certain it would have to be 3rd party. If ED has supplied him with a way to download the master server list, Then you could theoretically create something like hyperlobby, as long as there is a command line to launch the game in network mode to connect to an IP.

 

Would love to help but I've only got basic C++ knowledge and a C++ book floating around somewhere in my house. took a couple classes in high school.

 

That is fine.

I am thinking of hosting a separate forum+chat+etc for this project.