Gulf of Mexico oil slick

[sobek]

What about the cracked seabed?

 

Might be a hoax.

[Airway]

It's said by the White House speaker, so I would wonder

[sobek]

It's said by the White House speaker, so I would wonder

 

Do you have a source?

[jpm1]

no confirmation of cracked seabed on french tv but only something that could happen as new funnel increases the pressure in the well . but report of a new oil leak in the new system . at such point i think everything is in BP , US government and ^ hands . that event made me have a totally new behavior on my way of life . since now i'll watch what i buy and if there's to much pollution , too much human exploitation behind i don't buy . once i saw a documentary about human race , and scientists were saying that human being was the result of such improbabilities that there were almost no chance in the universe other Men could exist . We canno't treat such extraordinary thing with such casualness . i've donated for wildlife in distress , now i keep my money in case coastal population have to flee , and need funds . i admire all the workers of BP or not who are working and doing the best they can on the leak site :thumbup:

[Airway]

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i admire all the workers of BP or not who are working and doing the best they can on the leak site :thumbup:

 

The Gulf coast fisherman you mean? But they are not very well compensated they say.

Had you seen Kindra Arnesen interview too?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh_ESQj1gkI&hd=1

 

 

Do you have a source?

I might have misunderstood so there was no confirm.

But it said

"But retired Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, the Obama administration's spill response chief, said a seep had been detected a distance from busted oil well, and he demanded that BP provide results of further testing of the seabed Sunday night."

Link

[jpm1]

no i was speaking of BP workers at the rig explosion site , they probably have lot of pressure and conditions aren't easy with all that oil

[Airway]

That was a good one, though.

[bumfire]

toxic rain is indeed a real threat not scare media.

 

reports of oiled rain yep.

 

But its not exactly going to DESTROY NORTH AMERICA as stated is it ?

 

And TBH, although I am not a scientist, I would generally think that Crude oil is too heavy and dense for it to turn into rain.

 

I would take reports of "Oil Rain" in the same vain as I would "Big Bird from Sesame Street shot JFK", until a scientist or Gov spokesperson actually says that they have 100% identified Oil that has rained, then I personally dont believe it as I live next to 2345678909876543 Oilrigs which have had many oil disasters from oil tankers that have run aground and discharged its contents, to the Biggest oil rig in the north sea that was the Main Oil and Gas pumping rig to mainland UK that blew up, and I live in one of the windiest places in the world at times, in winter winds of 80-100mph is the norm for weeks on end at times and I have yet to see Oil Rain hitting my city.

I am not saying it cant happen, because I dont know if it can happen, but I just doubt that crude oil can disperse into the air and rain down, maybe if a typhoon picked it up yes, but apart from that then I would have difficulty in believeing it, unless proven by someone with some authority

 

Some Farmer or some media outlet Shouting, Oil Rain >Here< does not count, as their is alot of dodgy crap going on, from defrauding BP by workers claiming to work X hours and days when they didnt work, BP knows about it and have said to their contractors to just pay the workers regardless if they worked or not so that anymore bad publicity is avoided, to a supposed 61'000 bogus, hmm maybe dubious is a better word, claims for compensation, so I would take rumours of Oil Rain with not a pinch but a grain of salt.

 

If it is true, then its a good thing as nobody need drill for oil again, just collect it in buckets and if it lands on your land, sell it to the refineries :D

 

Transocean is an American company Based in Switzerland, it moved there last year - 2009, but its a US company but based over there probably due to the insane amount of money the company makes due to it being the largest offshore drilling company in the world, and the fact that the Swiss have a great setup for big companies like that, rwhen it comes to cash and taxes.

 

TBH, I dont see how the oil leak has made such bad headlines around the world, it isnt exactly that bad, there has been worse, much much worse infact.

 

After katrina and some other natural disasters that the region has experienced, alot of people were wiped out business wise and never got a penny from the US gov, they are now employed by BP cleaning up and may even get some compensation from them ?, when even their own GOV didnt compensate them when katrina and other things hit and caused billions in damages and left the area in a mess and many people homeless and without a single posession to their name.

 

In one place, I cant recall the name, but in one town or city the people there are applauding BP, they know it was an accident, they understand accidents do happen, they see that BP is making amends and is doing as much as anybody can do and have provided for the future enviroment, plus they have employed the majority of the town/city who were unemployed due to previous disasters and were in desperate need of employment.

 

In those peoples eyes, BP has saved that city or town by bringing badly needed money back into the area, ok they would rather it didnt happen, but the way they see it was that they were already living in the worst times they had experienced due to katrina and other things, some lost everything, so to them they were living a disaster before the spill ever happened, BP came along and opened up a main base there to cope with the spill and employed anyone who wanted work and it in a short space of time, it has started to transform those peoples lives simply because they now have money when they previously didnt have any, and their GOV never came to help them, yet it takes an oil spill for these people to start to see a future ahead of them now.

 

How strange things can be, on one hand we have a disaster which nobody wanted to happen, but yet on the other we have people who are glad it happened as it has transformed their lives simply due to $$$$.

 

One side effect to this is my Brother works on a Diving Vessel as a saturation chamber supervisor, basically being in charge of the chamber that the divers live in and then goto work in, and because of the spill his boat has been called back from the gulf and he hasnt worked over there for a few months now, he is stuck in an office and is uber pissed off as he doesnt like the office work, plus being on the boat pays about 2-3 times as much as he gets being onland, but he gets to see his girls everyday so I suppose that makes up for it ? but then again seeing his girls doesnt pay his mortgage :)

Edited July 21, 2010 by bumfire

[diveplane]

But its not exactly going to DESTROY NORTH AMERICA as stated is it ?

 

And TBH, although I am not a scientist, I would generally think that Crude oil is too heavy and dense for it to turn into rain.

 

I would take reports of "Oil Rain" in the same vain as I would "Big Bird from Sesame Street shot JFK", until a scientist or Gov spokesperson actually says that they have 100% identified Oil that has rained, then I personally dont believe it as I live next to 2345678909876543 Oilrigs which have had many oil disasters from oil tankers that have run aground and discharged its contents, to the Biggest oil rig in the north sea that was the Main Oil and Gas pumping rig to mainland UK that blew up, and I live in one of the windiest places in the world at times, in winter winds of 80-100mph is the norm for weeks on end at times and I have yet to see Oil Rain hitting my city.

I am not saying it cant happen, because I dont know if it can happen, but I just doubt that crude oil can disperse into the air and rain down, maybe if a typhoon picked it up yes, but apart from that then I would have difficulty in believeing it, unless proven by someone with some authority

 

Some Farmer or some media outlet Shouting, Oil Rain >Here< does not count, as their is alot of dodgy crap going on, from defrauding BP by workers claiming to work X hours and days when they didnt work, BP knows about it and have said to their contractors to just pay the workers regardless if they worked or not so that anymore bad publicity is avoided, to a supposed 61'000 bogus, hmm maybe dubious is a better word, claims for compensation, so I would take rumours of Oil Rain with not a pinch but a grain of salt.

 

If it is true, then its a good thing as nobody need drill for oil again, just collect it in buckets and if it lands on your land, sell it to the refineries :D

 

Transocean is an American company Based in Switzerland, it moved there last year - 2009, but its a US company but based over there probably due to the insane amount of money the company makes due to it being the largest offshore drilling company in the world, and the fact that the Swiss have a great setup for big companies like that, rwhen it comes to cash and taxes.

 

TBH, I dont see how the oil leak has made such bad headlines around the world, it isnt exactly that bad, there has been worse, much much worse infact.

 

After katrina and some other natural disasters that the region has experienced, alot of people were wiped out business wise and never got a penny from the US gov, they are now employed by BP cleaning up and may even get some compensation from them ?, when even their own GOV didnt compensate them when katrina and other things hit and caused billions in damages and left the area in a mess and many people homeless and without a single posession to their name.

 

In one place, I cant recall the name, but in one town or city the people there are applauding BP, they know it was an accident, they understand accidents do happen, they see that BP is making amends and is doing as much as anybody can do and have provided for the future enviroment, plus they have employed the majority of the town/city who were unemployed due to previous disasters and were in desperate need of employment.

 

In those peoples eyes, BP has saved that city or town by bringing badly needed money back into the area, ok they would rather it didnt happen, but the way they see it was that they were already living in the worst times they had experienced due to katrina and other things, some lost everything, so to them they were living a disaster before the spill ever happened, BP came along and opened up a main base there to cope with the spill and employed anyone who wanted work and it in a short space of time, it has started to transform those peoples lives simply because they now have money when they previously didnt have any, and their GOV never came to help them, yet it takes an oil spill for these people to start to see a future ahead of them now.

 

How strange things can be, on one hand we have a disaster which nobody wanted to happen, but yet on the other we have people who are glad it happened as it has transformed their lives simply due to $$$$.

 

One side effect to this is my Brother works on a Diving Vessel as a saturation chamber supervisor, basically being in charge of the chamber that the divers live in and then goto work in, and because of the spill his boat has been called back from the gulf and he hasnt worked over there for a few months now, he is stuck in an office and is uber pissed off as he doesnt like the office work, plus being on the boat pays about 2-3 times as much as he gets being onland, but he gets to see his girls everyday so I suppose that makes up for it ? but then again seeing his girls doesnt pay his mortgage :)

 

in a nut shell big picture.

all control, many call the game, the everyday brain washing media tv and daily jobs grind , small few elite want to hang into power long as they can, before they get rounded up and linched . they are on borrowed time imo, peoples patiences are wearing thin.

 

when jobs and benifits are cut and run out thats when youll see social unrest possible riots.

Edited July 26, 2010 by diveplane

[Pilotasso]

There are so many hoaxes that the seriousness of the matter is forgotten, and that is probably the intent.

[jpm1]

they entered last phase of repairs , now they are trying to fill up the well definitly . the question now is to find where the oil has gone , seems it as almost complety disappeared , nothing is visible at the surface anymore . some say it may have been digested by bacterias which are prolific in that world area , but there's another theory that says the oil may have gone at the ocean bottom and if so , it'll have desastrous consequences on the fauna .. BP says it has captured a quarter of the oil . let's hope it's the bacterias

[Pilotasso]

The surface oil has likely either sunk or being dissolved by toxic substances still circulating in the atmosphere and water. No way BP recovered 1/4 of the oil.

[bumfire]

As Pilotasso says, no way have they collected a quarter of the surface oil, too widespread for that to of happened, its more than likely sunk, broken down due to wind or chemicals/bacteria or simply washed ashore.

 

Their surface collection systems are not at all efficient enough to collect 1/4 of all the oil that was floating on the surface.

 

The good thing is, they have static killed the well, so its basically capped, it only needs the relief wells that were drilled to hook up and start pumping concrete into it and that will be the job completely done.

 

Now we all just have to see how true BP keep to their word when they say that they are in this for the long haul, come back here in 5 - 10 years time and we will see how much progress regarding cleaning the surrounding enviroment has taken place.

[jpm1]

i didn't express correctly , they captured 1/4 of the escaping oil . concerning the surface oil i read they used 4000 skimmer-boats . now a problem is almost solved it's the fire that is at 4 km from nuclear facilities i Russia

[Pilotasso]

Problem solved???? I think we dont even know the full extent of it yet. Oil sure stopped but what about consequences? How long it will take to recover from those?

[Airway]

Wow. 600 million liter oil simply disappeared. Wow. Only 200 million liter oil left. Well, that can't be very dangerous, can it?

 

What i the world are they thinking??? Are they loony??? Do they think we are stupid?

[jpm1]

Wow. 600 million liter oil simply disappeared. Wow. Only 200 million liter oil left. Well, that can't be very dangerous, can it?

 

What i the world are they thinking??? Are they loony??? Do they think we are stupid?

 

today nobody knows where the oil has gone but some (neutral) scientists tend to agree that it may have evaporated or been assimilated by bacterias (conditional)

[Airway]

today nobody knows where the oil has gone but some (neutral) scientists tend to agree that it may have evaporated or been assimilated by bacterias (conditional)

 

lol :megalol:

 

It hasn't disappeared. How can 600 million liter oil disappear so fast :lol:

 

They sprayed Corexit and it has all sunk to the seafloor. It only has disappeared from being able to be seen on the top of the water :doh:

[bumfire]

I suspect that its broken up and is now in tiny clumps, blobs or globules on the bottom of the sea.

 

No way has it all evaporated, although you would be surprised at how quickly it can evaoporate to some degree or another, but its more than likely been broken up by waves or chemical sprays and has now went sub surface where if it isnt in large clumps it will break down further and eventually dissappear.

 

If that is the case then I doubt very much if that would pose a threat to marine life either now or in the future, the surface slick was the main threat and it seems that has all but vanished.

 

Now we focus our attention on russia, then the floods in pakistan and the earthquakes in china, there's always something.

Edited August 8, 2010 by bumfire

[hassata]

Sad thing-BP's already talking about drilling some more in the gulf.

[bumfire]

Sad thing-BP's already talking about drilling some more in the gulf.

 

If they dont drill someone else will and, considering whats just happened to BP, they will probably be the safest company that will be drilling in the area, as there is no way they want this to ever happen again, so they will do EVERYTHING in their power to avoid such a situation from happening.

[leafer]

Now we all just have to see how true BP keep to their word when they say that they are in this for the long haul, come back here in 5 - 10 years time and we will see how much progress regarding cleaning the surrounding enviroment has taken place.

 

We're talking about oil company here. They've gone as far as tortured and murdered protesters, not BP, so I don't have high hope.

[jpm1]

lol :megalol:

 

It hasn't disappeared. How can 600 million liter oil disappear so fast :lol:

 

They sprayed Corexit and it has all sunk to the seafloor. It only has disappeared from being able to be seen on the top of the water :doh:

 

seems they used lot of dispersing agent , now let's just hope it won't have consequence on seafood consumers . i've seen a documentary about a factory that evacuated mercury in the sea in Japan it makes you shudder

[Sov13t]

You gotta love the media coverage of this whole thing in the US. Trying so hard to cover up the extensive use of chemicals, and the fact that nobody really knows the consequences of this in the long run and the absolute joke of a congressional hearing and actions of the administration.

 

Fun stuff. If the gulf stream seizes to circulate water as it used to... going to be an interesting climate change for sure.

[jpm1]

You gotta love the media coverage of this whole thing in the US. Trying so hard to cover up the extensive use of chemicals, and the fact that nobody really knows the consequences of this in the long run and the absolute joke of a congressional hearing and actions of the administration.

 

Fun stuff. If the gulf stream seizes to circulate water as it used to... going to be an interesting climate change for sure.

 

the more time passes by , the more we hear of disasters . as Bumfire mentioned there is not one week without a disaster nowadays . in France there are almost no more normal rains today . we have or strong winds or hail or floods . my mother which is 70y told me that that didn't exist at her time

Edited August 17, 2010 by jpm1