i5 or i3 for Black Shark

[leafer]

I was set on building an AMD system but after reading reviews, I decided to sell my AM3 mobo and bought an MSI P55-GD65. Keep in mind that after this comp is up and running, hopefully by end of next month, there will be no upgrading for at least a year because from that point onwards, I'll be saving up for a HOTAS. So, should I go for an i3 and save 90 bucks and spend the saving for another two gig of ram which will give me a total of four gig.

 

Oh yes, ninety bucks is 'a lot' of money in this country so it needs to go where it really matters.

[rattler]

Well, this sim. is pretty much CPU reliant and if $90 dollars gives you 4gb of ram, the CPU is sufficient to run with but you should have at least 4gb of ram. Yes the I5 would be much better but as you pointed out, money is tight so personally I would add more Ram. If I had the bucks I would do both. Hope some more members jump in on this. Cheers and Good luck with your new system.:thumbup:

[MIGHAIL]

fsb and ram freq is primary target, cpu is secondary, but secondary target must mission acomplited:) so better i7, but quad core could be more than enoughdecly, maybe even dual core with 3+hz maybe better for this than quad core with 2,6

and yes, ram is very important very good 4 gb for any systems, but if x64 better 6 gb, maybe some time it could be help

any way, even if use flanker 1.5 it could be got so much units in the mission what none pc will work with this, but it will very very much of units:) in this game not so much:)

best way is fsb+ram fast as could be with cpu what will good much better than my english, so dual core with 3+ is very good, but for other game better quad and i3, i5, i7, i9 etc

 

but again, if use much much units none could say what cpu is take this

[leafer]

Now that you've mentioned it, I do recall reading, long time ago, about performance gained after adding more ram but by how much? I know an i3 can be easily overclocked to 3+GHz so I guess that'd give me enough power to run BS.

 

Well, i7 is a no no. I've been without a computer for over half a year and I'm not adding more months saving for an i7. I need to fly, like, soon! :D

[MIGHAIL]

rgr:) well, so i3 must be good, about memory, 4gb if dual chanel if triple chanel 3gb but i dont sure, but for work ddr2 u need use 2 slots with same color, best way is 4gb in x86 system and 6gb in x64, but again, i dont sure about ddr3

btw, i use 2gb ram, but dont big missions, i fighter most time, and dont like big battalies, and this enough for fraps recording yet

2gb is minimum for use in xp 4gb for vista(7) not only in this game, but better sure 4 in xp, 6 in vista(7)

about overclock, for do this fsb of motherboard and memory freq, have to be used by this way, forexample my core is native 2.33 but work on 2.8 but could work 3,3 with other ram

but in real this work in 3,3

but so work gigabyte overclock, this could be overclocked by difrent way, turbo in cpu mod, or by fsb cruise, sport, etc

when is work as turbo, almost all test and bios show 2.4 and memory 400mhz(even dont see dual chanel) but in sandra test when system real work my memory show 936mhz(native 400x2) and fsb 1860+(native 400x4) and cpu 2.8

so nativeparameters of cpu is 2.33(q8200) with 333x4 fsb, but if use 400x4 +cpu turbo (ram is standart!) this work in real as 2.8

and this with simple air cooler and memory samsung 800mhz

so with more fast memory what could be use 433x4 fsb and +turbo, maybe it will work with no restart:) so as u can see, 2.33 could be stable with 2.8, but only if memory could be support it

and this is on ep45 intell chipset, so ur is better afaik, so could be faster but with right settings and installing hardware and bios

 

i sew in internet my config, but with other ram, and is was overclocked to 3.2-3.4 dont remember

Edited May 27, 2010 by MIGHAIL

[rattler]

Lets not lose track. The i3 530 will handle what you requested. You need ram. 2gb's is not enough. You have indicated that money is tight and you basically want best bang for the buck. Normally that would be your CPU, however everything else has to be up for it as well. Graphics card, power supply and motherboard.(basic) requirements, plus the OS system. ED is producing a better graphics solution and you need a place to store that information.(ram). This topic could go on forever but your needs are dictated by how much you can spend. I3 and ram would get you your required result. Can you improve on this, you bet you can but at a cost.Cheers.:)

[MIGHAIL]

yes, even withno overclock, 4gb will very good step for this game, and videocard better something like g-force 9-200 series will be very good, but about this better ask someone else:) i used vodoo3 till 2008:) so just now can good know only about my 9500 gt, just ask people about 9-200 series, or about ati radeon, but about this i know nothing ever:)

any way this game as ms-fsx use much cpu+ram than videocard, but videocard still very important companent

[rattler]

Don't forget about a good Power supply, 500 watts or better, gives everything else a longer life. Not just about 500 watts but also a good quality PSU unit.:)

 

Hope all of this has helped you out. Lots of threads here on the subject as well.:thumbup:

[Fahhh]

I'd suggest you stick to the i3, get a decent PSU, overclock the CPU and add 2 gigs more RAM. That would be the optimum solution for BS/FC2. You didn't mention your video card, it does play a secondary role in this sim, but should not be left out. For example you may get a fast CPU and loads of ram but with an old and slow display adapter, you still won't enjoy the game much... For higher resolutions (1680 and up), I'd suggest you get at least something like GF 9600/8800/9800 GT or Ati Radeon HD38xx/HD48xx/HD57xx/58xx.

[MIGHAIL]

sure, i use 1440x900 with my 9500 gt, and even cant think about higher, opposite, in some game i prefer play with 1152x720

[rattler]

I'd suggest you stick to the i3, get a decent PSU, overclock the CPU and add 2 gigs more RAM. That would be the optimum solution for BS/FC2. You didn't mention your video card, it does play a secondary role in this sim, but should not be left out. For example you may get a fast CPU and loads of ram but with an old and slow display adapter, you still won't enjoy the game much... For higher resolutions (1680 and up), I'd suggest you get at least something like GF 9600/8800/9800 GT or Ati Radeon HD38xx/HD48xx/HD57xx/58xx.

 

Exactly! More to a game computer than just a PC for the home. AS just mentioned there are some key components you must have and especially true for FC2 and BS. Would be nice to know some of your equipment so we can give you a better idea of what you would need to enjoy BS and FC. You can enjoy these sims. and not brake the bank. Cheers.

[leafer]

So an i3 and two more gigs it is. Here are the parts I have: MSI P55-GD65, Corsair TX750, Powercooler HD4670 1GB, ThermalTake V3 case. I'll use this built to play BS and some other RTS games, watch hiDef movies and listen to music.

 

The original plan was to balance the budget just right to get the most out of BS for as little as I could - 500 USD was the plan. That went the way of poo-poo when I strolled in to a local shop and this Corsair TX750 called out my name. I went in to buy a Scythe Strong 700 PSU which cost half that of the Corsair. Then the move to ditch AMD for Intel plus the extra two gigs I'm going to buy have gotten me 220 bucks over budget. I'm literally treading on thin ice here and my future wife is a hair from beating the nervous grin out of my face. :D

[Fahhh]

Well, I believe the HD4670 will be able to cope with BS, so you'll have a nice well-running system. Just for information, why did you decide to ditch AMD? There are some really nice price/performace cpus...

[rattler]

Well i know what you are going through as I am in the process of updating mine again.LOL. This time it is a full scale build with parts costing over 1000 dollars Cdn. so I know where your friend is coming from.LOL. We and our toys,hee hee, toys seems to be thrown around a lot for some reason that I can't figure out.LOL. I am married, 40yrs. this summer , so I have been told many times but I have perfected my excuse.LOL. Have fun.:thumbup:

[leafer]

Just for information, why did you decide to ditch AMD? There are some really nice price/performace cpus...

 

Just wanted to try something new. My only Intel box was when I knew nothing about computer, think original Flanker and Packard Bell, since then I had been using AMD for over ten years.

 

Rattler,

 

It sounds like you're building a monstrous system - i7 980X by any change? :D

 

hey, it takes a lot of work and dedication to keep a marriage going - thumbs up to ya and the misses. :)

Edited May 28, 2010 by leafer

[rattler]

Just wanted to try something new. My only Intel box was when I knew nothing about computer, think original Flanker and Packard Bell, since then I had been using AMD for over ten years.

 

Rattler,

 

It sounds like you're building a monstrous system - i7 980X by any change? :D

 

hey, it takes a lot of work and dedication to keep a marriage going - thumbs up to ya and the misses. :)

 

Thanks for the kind words. I7-980 was pressing my luck but it is an i7-930, mother board is P6T, expensive, I figured I got away lucky.LOL. She's starting to zero in on my excusses.:cry:. All kidding aside, I am very lucky to have her and for a long time to come.:). Picking up new system shortly.Can't wait to take it for a SPIN.:D

[leafer]

Lucky you! I meant the i7 :P :D

[rattler]

Lucky you! I meant the i7 :P :D

 

Play with it now.:D I think I am finished. going to be hard to go higher any time soon.LOL:)