how to activate the cobra manuever in fc2.0?

[borchi_2b]

hi guys, i used the search function but i could not find anything to it.

aybe i wasto dump to tipe the right phrases, but can anybody help out here?

 

anything ?

 

i really would like to reactivate the cobra, cuse this is somehing i am missin in the su27 in bfm and aso in bvr, cause this might be something that could be used as tacics like soviets have suggested

 

i would behappy when anybody could help out here

 

thanks

 

borchi

[RIPTIDE]

Meh.... cobra has limited tactical value. Although a 73/ET shot to bandit high and behind you is possible. ;)

[borchi_2b]

i know, but it is just one littlepart of it.

 

thats why i would like to knowhow to activate it again

[Zhuravlik]

Go to...Eagle Dynamics\LockOn Flaming Cliffs 2\Config\Input\Aircrafts\select the aircrafts\keyboard and edit default.lua with notepad++

 

remove the two lines in the next line

 

--{combos = {{key = 'K'}}, down = iCommandPlaneCobra, name = 'Execute Pugachev\'s Cobra', category = 'Flight Control'},

 

Regards

[GGTharos]

It's not a little part of it, it's about all there is to it ...

Already shown in real life that any maneuvers that blow your speed away = death ... shown at red flag.

[Sov13t]

I have used it twice before in an off bore R-73 shot scenario after the merge with Helmet.

 

Didn't die.

 

So there are exceptions.

[borchi_2b]

thanks for the help.

[EtherealN]

Nothing special about the cobra anyway - J-35 Draken aircraft did them way before the flanker did. :P

(But the Draken people correctly deduced that the maneuver was worthless for combat.)

[mikoyan]

I have used it with success more than twice so I believe it is not totally worthless.

[RIPTIDE]

I have used it twice before in an off bore R-73 shot scenario after the merge with Helmet.

 

Didn't die.

 

So there are exceptions.

Yep. I remember messing around in a private server once with a few buddies, and one guy got me this way as I circled above :D :joystick:

[borchi_2b]

hmm, strange is that i do not see the K in the options area, anything else to it?

 

it does not work either ingame although i removed the lines

[RIPTIDE]

hmm, strange is that i do not see the K in the options area, anything else to it?

 

it does not work either ingame although i removed the lines

I thought it was removed with FC2.0 anyway. IIRC it was specifically written in the release notes that the Cobra was outside the Flight Model.

[Nate--IRL--]

hmm, strange is that i do not see the K in the options area, anything else to it?

 

it does not work either ingame although i removed the lines

 

I think you have to delete the Keyboard.lua after you have changed the default.lua. (back it up First.) Then go to options.

 

Nate

[combatace]

Well its a mid fidelity 'SIM' as one of the ED testers told me, but anyway its a sim and it should have what a real plane has. I'm not going into cobra is good or bad but real plane can do it and it has to be there thats all.

[borchi_2b]

my 2 cent

[EtherealN]

At the expense of the nature of how it's possible to implement causing said aircraft to be able to do it in regimes where it cannot do it, with energy outcomes that are not close to reality?

 

No. In this case it would remove from "simulation", not add to it.

 

...nevermind that performing it is way more difficult than it was in FC1...

[mikoyan]

Few months ago I was playing online using the mig-29 and I decided to go ninja against the blue side,since I was low in fuel to go back to base empty handed(I already wasted 2 r-77 at this point). I went really low between the mountains and managed to get less than 16km from the enemy base.

I used the EOS to see if there were enemy aircrafts taking off... after a few minutes an f-15 tock off and went straight to the coast with his radar off! (going to my base) so I went in pursuit using my last 700 kg of fuel managed to get on his 6 and launched my remaining ETS; he never saw me... then I went back to the cover of the mountains knowing that that f-15 player was going to take off again looking for vengeance.

 

Nadia started yelling at me saying that it was no good; I had less than 500kg of fuel remanning. Low thought the mountains I got the worst news of the entire mission, the f-15 had me locked! he launched an aim-120 but I was able to put a mountain between my aircraft and his missile; then he tried an aim-9 but for some reason the missile didn't hit my bird. he keep getting close since I wasn't using my afterburners. I figured that he was going to go gunzo on me but he was going too fast (filled with itching desire to kill me! ) so I did the last ditch move! Cobra!! he overshot and after noticing that the tables turned agains him he started to turn. I got a lock and launched my r-73 but the suckers missed because he was drooping flares like a Christmas new year fireworks.

 

The dog fight was going to be fierce it was gun against gun, eagle vs fulcrum, red vs blue... both of us turning to get into the magic 6. I could see that he made a huge mistake at that point.... he was fully loaded, 3 fuel tanks most of his missiles still hanging and turning agains a mig flying on fumes with no missiles. He was death meat. after less than 2 turns I was at position ready to pull the trigger; a short burst and he went down in flames. yeah baby!

feeling the rush I decided that this good luck wasn't going to last forever so I head back home when suddenly my engines quit! a quick glance to the fuel count meter confirmed that I had no fuel left. I had to eject loosing my good partner. saw him going down silently between the mountains, while I descended on my parachute.

with I bitter sweet smile on my face, I knew that this had been a good mission... at least we got to yankees partner! good bye. (mig hitting the ground)

 

To be continued....

Next week...

War Prisoner! the story of a captured mig pilot who endures 8 months of torture and captivity!

[combatace]

Arcade? O hell I thought......

[EtherealN]

Mikoyan, so what you are telling me is that the maneuver saved you in a situation that you'd be court martialed for entering in a real air force? ;)

 

But apologies, I am trying to decide if there was sarcasm in there and I can't make a decision, so nice one anyhow. :)

[GGTharos]

No, it wasn't the cobra...he could've just as easily barrel rolled or broken into the bandit's turn, same result in a 1v1 situation. As for the eagle pilot ... omg ... typical. Just typical. ;)

[RIPTIDE]

Mikoyan, so what you are telling me is that the maneuver saved you in a situation that you'd be court martialed for entering in a real air force? ;)

 

But apologies, I am trying to decide if there was sarcasm in there and I can't make a decision, so nice one anyhow. :)

... anyways... so is the cobra 'k' key functionality removed or present in FC2.0 latest patch?

[GGTharos]

It was removed, and I suspect it has more to do with interface programming than the maneuver itself - but it's just a guess on my part.

The maneuver itself did have its problems as well (bringing you out of the maneuver at too high a speed for example).

 

... anyways... so is the cobra 'k' key functionality removed or present in FC2.0 latest patch?

[EtherealN]

Look on the bright side - if we get DCS: Flanker, DCS: Fulcrum or DCS: Draken the AFM would let you do the maneuver all you want. You might find it harder than pressing a key tho. :P

[Sov13t]

Look on the bright side - if we get DCS: Flanker, DCS: Fulcrum or DCS: Draken the AFM would let you do the maneuver all you want. You might find it harder than pressing a key tho. :P

 

Big IFs... but let's hope so. :thumbup: Would be lovely.

[RIPTIDE]

Nothing special about the cobra anyway - J-35 Draken aircraft did them way before the flanker did. :P

(But the Draken people correctly deduced that the maneuver was worthless for combat.)

There is a very big differnece between the Drakens cobra and the Flanker Cobra, the loss of altitude in the case of the Draken.