dawestsides Posted June 24, 2010 Posted June 24, 2010 (edited) Hi, On the different recce/strike version of the Foxbat,and prior to 1976,there were no lateral nav lights on the air intakes. Those started appearing after (transparent material?),but I noticed that on the RB/RBV/RBK - starting from 1978 - they are totally black,like made-up of composite materials,so I was thinking maybe they have been replaced by some ECM or SIGINT antennas,as the latest versions were upgraded with the SPS-151 (ECM) and SRS-9 Virazh (SIGINT) systems. As far as I know those systems were carried internally but I have no clue on their antennas...any idea? Edited June 24, 2010 by dawestsides [/url]My MAKS 2015 Pictures
Vekkinho Posted June 24, 2010 Posted June 24, 2010 Black navlights or RWR antennas? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
dawestsides Posted June 24, 2010 Author Posted June 24, 2010 (edited) I mean the navlights.They look like navlights but maybe those are antennas housing of ECM/SIGINT/RWR systems...or maybe not.:huh: This is my question. I have read several times Yefim Gordon's book on the Foxbat but coulnd't find anything on this point.... Edited June 24, 2010 by dawestsides [/url]My MAKS 2015 Pictures
dawestsides Posted June 26, 2010 Author Posted June 26, 2010 Sure? Which system is this? [/url]My MAKS 2015 Pictures
Vekkinho Posted June 26, 2010 Posted June 26, 2010 (edited) In late seventies, early eighties ('82 IIRC) MiG-25PD and PDM modernisation programme was conducted in Soviet Union, this was more in a manner of "kicking a dead horse" 'cause MiG-31 was already to replace Foxbats and smaller but more agile 4th gen fighters like Fulcrum and Flanker behind the corner. I guess Belenko's flight to Japan surely unmasked all mysteries of plain MiG-25P so CCCP needed what it was missing. MiG-25P: Many avionics were upgraded. Airworthy airframes scheduled for upgrade received S-25 Sapphire instead of SP-25 Smerch radar, RWR Beryoza LE (or LM), KDS-155 chaff /flare dispenser and Geranium ECM system as a standard. Gardenia 1FU - active ECM was also an option but only as a external centerline pod denying the use of massive fueltanks Engines installed were "downgraded" R-15BD-300 variants prolonging TBO. EDIT: If you're interested in MiG-25 here's a nice walkaround in .pdf, no techical data or text though but pics say more than 1000 words, right? http://rs766.rapidshare.com/files/259634865/Mig_25_Walk_Around.pdf You'll notice different cockpit layouts in some photos, some of pics show Beryoza RWR display and older P cockpits lack it! Edited June 26, 2010 by Vekkinho [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
dawestsides Posted June 27, 2010 Author Posted June 27, 2010 Oh man I wish I had that nice walkaround before starting my 3D Foxbat.Thanks for the valuable info Vekkinho. But why there is no such antennas on the interceptor latest PD/PDS versions? They are present only on the recce versions... :huh: [/url]My MAKS 2015 Pictures
Vekkinho Posted June 27, 2010 Posted June 27, 2010 (edited) There are upgraded PD and PDS, but few are in Russia today...if you're looking for PD look Libya, Algeria, Syria, Belarus... Not a large number of interceptors remained operational with introduction of MiG-31 therefore no need for upgrading those birds for use with VVS & PVO of CCCP. On the other hand, lots of recon and strike Foxbats (RB, RBT, RBK, RBV) and two seat trainers (PU) continued service and some of them are still being used by Russian airforce today. MiG-25PU (two seat trainer lacking combat capability): Foxbats upgraded to PD and PDS were sold abroad, large number ended in Libya and Algeria: MiG-25RBT Elint birds were deployed to East Germany and had this very unusual camo: That's why you'll see more upgraded PD interceptors with foreign airforces and were very rare in CCCP. Edited June 27, 2010 by Vekkinho [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Vekkinho Posted June 27, 2010 Posted June 27, 2010 Oh man I wish I had that nice walkaround before starting my 3D Foxbat. :huh: Any previews available?! Can you also consider MiG-31, current 3D model is very poor? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
dawestsides Posted June 27, 2010 Author Posted June 27, 2010 (edited) Yes sir! Still waiting for texturing.The MiG-31 is obviously on my list. I'm also working on a real thing: Work In Progress here: http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?showtopic=209532 Edited June 27, 2010 by dawestsides 1 [/url]My MAKS 2015 Pictures
Lucas_From_Hell Posted June 27, 2010 Posted June 27, 2010 Me thinks me wants it :P Looking good :thumbup:
Vekkinho Posted June 27, 2010 Posted June 27, 2010 Woow, nice 3D model, I'm glad you're nailing it down properly! Same thing goes to your scale model of Foxbat, I never knew you're a scale modeler too! Anyway, keep it up mate! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
dawestsides Posted June 27, 2010 Author Posted June 27, 2010 This is my first try at both scale & 3D modelling. [/url]My MAKS 2015 Pictures
Vekkinho Posted June 27, 2010 Posted June 27, 2010 ^^^^^^ ?!? You must be natural! I just saw your exhaust nozzle renderings over at Arcforums :thumbup: Simply amazing! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
amalahama Posted June 27, 2010 Posted June 27, 2010 The model looks very profesional - Have you talked with ED? Maybe they get charmed with your model and include it in DCS:A-10! Regards!!
nscode Posted June 28, 2010 Posted June 28, 2010 but could it slow down enough to see an A-10 :D Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.
dawestsides Posted June 28, 2010 Author Posted June 28, 2010 Actually,as a first model,the polycount is quite high,hence not suitable for simulation.But I will work on reducing it for my next model. [/url]My MAKS 2015 Pictures
Vekkinho Posted June 28, 2010 Posted June 28, 2010 Actually,as a first model,the polycount is quite high,hence not suitable for simulation.But I will work on reducing it for my next model. You can always reduce polycount with WIP projects, can't you? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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