Basic flight help

[Nose Nuggets]

Can anyone provide a resource for basic flying help? I cant seem to cure this sensation of being 2 second behind the helicopter. I havent even really fired any weapons yet. i have been happy as a clam just flying the thing around. but after about 4 hours of flying about 6 total hours in game i dont feel like i have progressed much.

 

i have a feeling my joystick might be an issue as well but i hate jumping to blame equipment. i have a pretty basic logitech wireless joystick with the twist rudder and i think im twisting a lot when i dont intend to.

 

any help would be great!

[Speed]

Come by the 16th's TS3 server (ip.16thaccw.org, port 9987) Sunday after about 1 or 2 PM CST and I can probably help you.

[JasonJ]

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but after about 4 hours of flying about 6 total hours in game i dont feel like i have progressed much.

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Don't give up. I have full sim pit with all the controls like a real heli and it still was over 4 weeks of flying, countless hours of reading and watching training vids before I even got a round fired off from the cannon.

 

Steep learning curve is very steep

[Lio]

First of all go to options and turn off the rudder axis for your joystick. That way you can learn to fly it without having rudder bleed into your movements atleast when your still learning to fly it.

 

Try and turn FD to ON with all 4 AP channels ON. This should give you that normal helicopter feel that you properly know from other flight sims.

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=36246

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=35444

Read these two links and come back here and ask any questions you have :)

Edited August 8, 2010 by Lio

[Distiler]

I think I had not shoot any bullet in my first week of blackshark XD (seriously, one week).

 

Everybody uses this to learn basic combat:

 

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2626185/Tutorial_How_to_take_off_and_b.html#Post2626185

 

Also, teamspeak is the ultimate school :)

[Nose Nuggets]

Come by the 16th's TS3 server (ip.16thaccw.org, port 9987) Sunday after about 1 or 2 PM CST and I can probably help you.

 

I think i'll take you up on this.

 

Don't give up. I have full sim pit with all the controls like a real heli and it still was over 4 weeks of flying, countless hours of reading and watching training vids before I even got a round fired off from the cannon.

 

Steep learning curve is very steep

 

What training vids have you watched? All i have really found are the producers notes on YouTube.

 

First of all go to options and turn off the rudder axis for your joystick. That way you can learn to fly it without having rudder bleed into your movements atleast when your still learning to fly it.

 

Try and turn FD to ON with all 4 AP channels ON. This should give you that normal helicopter feel that you properly know from other flight sims.

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=36246

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=35444

 

Read these two links and come back here and ask any questions you have :)

 

The rudder seems rather important, even for basic flight. Are you sure learning without it would be helpful?

 

Right now im just trying to get a solid feel for slow, controlled movement and i usually have the AP setup just as you suggested while trying to slowly taxi around the airfield.

 

I think I had not shoot any bullet in my first week of blackshark XD (seriously, one week).

 

Everybody uses this to learn basic combat:

 

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2626185/Tutorial_How_to_take_off_and_b.html#Post2626185

 

Also, teamspeak is the ultimate school :)

 

Hahaha, yeah my current 6 hours is probably spread over a week and a half and i just fired the canon for the first time last night after re-watching the #6/7 producers note on YouTube. But i have still shelved combat entirely for now. not being able to put the aircraft where i want it is a huge hindrance that needs to be resolved first and foremost.

[Lio]

Well rudder is important for lots of stuff but not if it bleeds into your flying when you dont intendt to.

 

Anyway. If you read the links i provided please let us know if you understood any of it or you just left you even more confused.

 

It boils down to this.

Do you know how the FD works?

Do you know what the AP channels do?

Do you know how to trim and what it do?

Do you know what the collective break do?

 

If you dont im not supprised you think the chopper is hard to control :D

[Nose Nuggets]

Thanks for all your help today speed! The manual to auto-hover's are getting easier and easier.

 

 

Well rudder is important for lots of stuff but not if it bleeds into your flying when you dont intendt to.

 

Anyway. If you read the links i provided please let us know if you understood any of it or you just left you even more confused.

 

It boils down to this.

Do you know how the FD works?

Do you know what the AP channels do?

Do you know how to trim and what it do?

Do you know what the collective break do?

 

If you dont im not supprised you think the chopper is hard to control :D

 

I have a full understanding of how the AP and FD systems work, what they do, how much they do it, and how to fly with them.

 

Now that i have started using the AP on and the FD off and making inputs with the Trim held down my overall flying is more consistent.

 

I have not used the collective break at all yet, although i know what it does. with the altitude AP on i have been doing okay but i do need to start incorporating the collective break.

 

My main issue is over/under correcting when moving back to level flight from a turn or correction. also, not being precise with the inputs, and focusing to much to correcting one plane of movement at a time instead of using all the HUD and gauge information adjust all planes at once seems to be lingering. these are probably more of a practice thing then a technical deficiency thing though.

[JasonJ]

What training vids have you watched? All i have really found are the producers notes on YouTube.

Yes, the producers notes. Although some other searchs on youtube will show videos of other people flying DCS:BS so you can learn from those to.

[aairon]

Sounds like he's well on his way, I was curious about his frame rates. I have a friend who installed DCS Black Shark and reported to me that same thing about controls lagging and I just assumed that he wasn't used to it. I was at his place one day and we fired up the sim and WOW I couldn't do anything every input was very delayed and the video looked real choppy I then found his FPS were around 17 to 50 max even without any action nearby. he was running an old Pentium dual core, not even a core 2 duo lol. and his card was a 9800 Nvidia so that should have been ok. he called the other day and told me he got a new mother board quad core 9xxx series Intel CPU faster and more ram, and a gtx-285 and now tells me the sim is super easy to fly, so I'm thinking maybe that's a fast way to get real good at flying a chopper:megalol: anyway I do know that consistantly low FPS can make things much harder. I have a feeling though that Nuggets will become the terror of troops and enemy aircraft very soon.:smilewink: