Real A-10 targeting pod footage

[shackman]

But did he put that in himself as a part of the video, or is that real game chatter? :cry: (hopes its in-game sound! :thumbup:)

If you listen to the six minute interview here http://www.simhq.com/_commentary/all_101c.html

 

you will hear a developer say that in game you'll hear multiple frequencies. Such as an F-15E starting an attack run or another Hog etc.

[diveplane]

Notice how there is a 'cut' so the sensor can look backwards to some limit:

 

 

they could have made the sensor hang down more, 360 degree unrestricted viewing , telescopic or on a hindge mechanism, sensor drops down below rear pod in flight , flick of a pilot switch. on ground the sensor is locked in the up position.

and they could have slapped a color daylight hd display output on it, this monochrome crap is outdated nonsence,

just my opinion on it if i was the designer.

Edited October 2, 2010 by diveplane

[mvsgas]

they could have made the sensor hang down more, 360 degree unrestricted

viewing , telescopic or on a hindge mechanism, sensor drops down below rear pod in flight , flick of a pilot

switch. on ground the sensor is locked in the up position.

and they could have slapped a color daylight hd display output on it, this monochrome crap is outdated nonsence,

just my opinion on it if i was the designer.

This pod is used by many airframes with little if any modifications. Most of the space is used for equipment,

to add anything else would ad to much weight and the 16, for example, would not be able to carry it. Even the

advance targeting pod is stream line, I bet there is a reason for that.

 

Most aircraft (A-10C, F-18C/D/E/F, F-16 blk40,42,50,52,60, F-15E) have color displays available.

The Airborne Video Tape Recorders (AVTR) record in black and white so you can tell.

Why do they need an HD display? Are they going to watch blue rays while bombing?

Consumer products and Military are different. If it was that easy the aircraft would have better computers.

My wife Macbook CPU is better than most aircraft main computer.

Edited October 2, 2010 by mvsgas

[diveplane]

no makes the job easier , viewing through a monochrome display looking for colored smoke

is laughable watching the video at the start of this thread,

yes he can look out the cockpit eyeball it, but helps if he had a nice color display to view the action, technology is there why restrict your ass inside a cockpit with black and white viewing? i understand the mfds are color already, its the senor output on the lantern thats restricted to colorless?

 

i can understand the monochrome for lowlight conditions and night time use.

brings out the heat sources better.

but for daylight good conditions least have the option for color viewing imo.

 

oh well make it harder then, military thinking.

 

this friendly fire may have been prevented if they installed a colored sensor and display, spotted the orange tarps over friendly units.

also the pilots made the error firing on units they where unsure of them being = friend or foe. not sure dont fire unless you see rounds coming up at you , then youll know

 

pt2

 

i did hear one of the pilots mention flat bed trucks, could have been british sas untis moving in unmarked local transports to blend in?

= no IFF broadcasts from those. only a orange tarp on roof.

 

speculation on my part as to what the units where?.

Edited October 2, 2010 by diveplane

[diveplane]

Are they going to watch blue rays while bombing?

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that a good idea , long haul flights they could watch films . while we are at it stick updated cpus in them as well. give us 64bit color god dam it lmao

Edited October 2, 2010 by diveplane

[nomdeplume]

no makes the job easier , viewing through a monochrome display looking for colored smoke is laughable

 

What's laughable is the idea of locating the target area while peering through a straw. You can't effectively scan even a relatively small area of terrain while zoomed in, it takes far too long to pan around and you can easily miss areas (especially when you're in a moving aircraft). And if you're going to use your sensor at 1x, then why not just look out the window? Your eyes are going to have way better resolution, anyway.

 

technology is there why restrict your ass inside a cockpit with black and white viewing? i understand the mfds are color already, its the senor output on the lantern thats restricted to colorless?

Most likely it comes down to cost and reliability. Colour sensors would be considerably more expensive; and considerably more complex. The benefits of having colour video from the sensors are fairly small compared to the cost of creating and maintaining the sensor.

 

this friendly fire may have been prevented if they installed a colored sensor and display, spotted the orange tarps over friendly units.

I don't know if there's enough information to make that suggestion. Obviously the pilots saw the orange colour without problems, but misidentified it as being rocket launchers. I don't think they had any kind of magnified vision at all, as if they did, even a black and white image at sufficient detail would make it clear there weren't rockets on top of the vehicles.

 

The pilots were looking for bad guys to shoot at, and their contact on the ground told them there weren't any friendlies in their area. They put two and two together and saw what they wanted to see. The big error here was that they made the attack, even though they obviously weren't entirely convinced they were looking at enemies.

[mvsgas]

no makes the job easier , viewing through a monochrome display looking for colored smoke

is laughable watching the video at the start of this thread,

yes he can look out the cockpit eyeball it, but helps if he had a nice color display to view the action, technology is there why restrict your ass inside a cockpit with black and white viewing? i understand the mfds are color already, its the senor output on the lantern thats restricted to colorless?

Do you think the found the smoke by using the pod?

You know the only thing they have to do is enter GPS coordinates and the pod will find the spot, color display will benefit in what way? Besides I do not think color HD displays are available, if they are they probably cost more than a normal home. Remember this things got to withstand high temps, low temps, 5 to 9 g depending on the aircraft the get install, shock from landing etc. I have been on many cockpits and MFD/CMFD get beat up by the environment and much as by normal, day to day use. Rain, direct sunlight, heat, sand and new and eager pilots are all terrible for this things

 

 

A millions things happen in combat, is not fair for any for us to judge those pilots. They saw the color and I doubt color displays would have helped in any way. Not sure how this could be prevented but I will not presume to have all the facts from that low quality video.

 

Also, AFAIK, only aircraft use IFF and even that is very complicated on the way it works.

 

Anyway, Will the DCS A10C pod allow for laser search, laser code inputs and GPD coordinates inputs/outputs?

[159th_Viper]

 

Anyway, Will the DCS A10C pod allow for laser search, laser code inputs and GPD coordinates inputs/outputs?

 

Yes.

[Kaptein_Damli]

But did he put that in himself as a part of the video, or is that real game chatter? :cry: (hopes its in-game sound! :thumbup:)

 

That´s taken from this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szX45PdUOmo