copen Posted November 28, 2010 Posted November 28, 2010 I find that even as slow as the A-10C is, it still covers the TGP LOS distance pretty quickly. When I want to set up markpoints on the targets before rolling in, I find that I'm on top of them by the time I'm ready, then have to circle away again to set up the bomb run. Right now, I'm cheating with active pause: marking targets, setting up a flightplan, etc. Then, I unpause, line the targets up in CCRP, and finally bomb the targets with the JDAMs. But in real life, I imagine there's a legitimate method of staying 7-10 miles away from a target in a safe fashion, with plenty of time to mark targets with the TGP. I've tried flying perpendicular to the targets, but then I end up 10-20 miles off course by the time I'm ready. Perhaps I'm not working with the CDU fast enough. If I fly away, the TGP LOS to target is masked by the plane. Any ideas? Thanks. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 2006 Mac Pro (boot camp) | 2 x 2.66Ghz Core2 Xeon | 5GB 667Mhz FB-DIMM RAM | nVidia GTX260 Core216 768MB | Windows 7 Pro x64 | TM Warthog HOTAS | TrackIR 5 | Saitek Pro rudder pedals | Dell 24" LCD @ 1920x1200
kylania Posted November 28, 2010 Posted November 28, 2010 I've kinda stopped using it because all it does is freeze your plane, everything else in the game world continues moving. Instead I've been doing a lot of circling and multiple passes to make up time for that kind of thing. 7-10nm away for me is panic time, since I'm over the target instantly. Can't seem to mark anything at 20m anymore, maybe view distance, I'll have to change that again. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Christmas Cheer - A Landing Practice Mission : Beta Paint Schemes : HOTAS Keyboard Map : Bingo Fuel - A DCS A-10C Movie
Shake3000 Posted November 28, 2010 Posted November 28, 2010 You don't need to make a flight plan. Set the turning knob on the cdu to 'markpoint' and you're set.
JHepburn Posted November 28, 2010 Posted November 28, 2010 In addition, try flying 60-90 degrees offset to the target or orbit outside of their engagement zone while you setup the attack.
Furia Posted November 28, 2010 Posted November 28, 2010 Training and a good HOTAS joystick would make you proficient without needing "pauses" or any other stuff. To fight the A-10C you need to train on its systems and its procedures. There are no "magic" tricks, just do some training and you will feel every day more able and skilled. [sIGPIC]http://menorca.infotelecom.es/~raulurbina/ESA/banner_furia.png[/sIGPIC]
mvsgas Posted November 28, 2010 Posted November 28, 2010 You don't have to fly towards the target. You can fly big circle around the target area. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
copen Posted November 29, 2010 Author Posted November 29, 2010 Shake3000: I haven't tried setting the CDU to markpoint. That will save time not having to make a flight plan. Great idea! JHepburn/msvgas: How does one fly a circle around the target area whilst staring at the TGP, slewing, marking, etc? I wish autopilot had a "wide orbit" option. Furia: I am using a TM Warthog HOTAS. I've completed all training missions except countermeasures, because it keeps crashing after a couple of radar warnings are received. I totally appreciate all of the training youtube videos out there. I'm about 90% through the manual. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 2006 Mac Pro (boot camp) | 2 x 2.66Ghz Core2 Xeon | 5GB 667Mhz FB-DIMM RAM | nVidia GTX260 Core216 768MB | Windows 7 Pro x64 | TM Warthog HOTAS | TrackIR 5 | Saitek Pro rudder pedals | Dell 24" LCD @ 1920x1200
mvsgas Posted November 29, 2010 Posted November 29, 2010 Just use a way point t find the target area, you can also use a land mark. Turn left or right ( depending which wing the pod is loaded) and while maintaining the target on the wing search the area. I like to stay 8 to 5 miles out, this is when FLIR becomes very handy. Find a hot spot, zoom in to try to ID. Once targets are identified, plan an attack, and then try it out. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Frogfoot1606687865 Posted November 29, 2010 Posted November 29, 2010 How does one fly a circle around the target area whilst staring at the TGP, slewing, marking, etc? I wish autopilot had a "wide orbit" option. If you set the autopilot control switch on the LASTE panel to ALT rather than ALT/HDG and put the A/C into a level bank then engage the autopilot it will maintain the bank angle and baro altitude, thus allowing you to do a 'hands off' orbit of the area of interest. Cheers Tom Windows 10 Pro 64bit, Gigabyte EX58-UD5, Intel i7 920 Corsair H70 water cooled @4GHz), Corsair XMS3 12GB (6x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C8 (1600MHz) Tri-Channel, Nvidia GTX780, OCZ Vertex 256GB SSD (for OS+DCS), TrackIR 5, TM Warthog HOTAS + Saitek Rudder
copen Posted November 29, 2010 Author Posted November 29, 2010 If you set the autopilot control switch on the LASTE panel to ALT rather than ALT/HDG and put the A/C into a level bank then engage the autopilot it will maintain the bank angle and baro altitude, thus allowing you to do a 'hands off' orbit of the area of interest. Brilliant! Thank you. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 2006 Mac Pro (boot camp) | 2 x 2.66Ghz Core2 Xeon | 5GB 667Mhz FB-DIMM RAM | nVidia GTX260 Core216 768MB | Windows 7 Pro x64 | TM Warthog HOTAS | TrackIR 5 | Saitek Pro rudder pedals | Dell 24" LCD @ 1920x1200
JHepburn Posted November 29, 2010 Posted November 29, 2010 If you set the autopilot control switch on the LASTE panel to ALT rather than ALT/HDG and put the A/C into a level bank then engage the autopilot it will maintain the bank angle and baro altitude, thus allowing you to do a 'hands off' orbit of the area of interest. Cheers Tom Be aware, I've seen some quirky behavior in the yaw axis w/ Beta 3 when using this function.
SkipCarey Posted November 29, 2010 Posted November 29, 2010 If you set the autopilot control switch on the LASTE panel to ALT rather than ALT/HDG and put the A/C into a level bank then engage the autopilot it will maintain the bank angle and baro altitude, thus allowing you to do a 'hands off' orbit of the area of interest. Cheers Tom Very NICE INDEED Thanx .
copen Posted November 29, 2010 Author Posted November 29, 2010 Be aware, I've seen some quirky behavior in the yaw axis w/ Beta 3 when using this function. I'm using Beta 3, and have been trying it for 5 minutes on super speed (Ctrl-Z a couple times), and haven't crashed yet. Still maintaining 4410 feet, with a bank of about 15 degrees. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 2006 Mac Pro (boot camp) | 2 x 2.66Ghz Core2 Xeon | 5GB 667Mhz FB-DIMM RAM | nVidia GTX260 Core216 768MB | Windows 7 Pro x64 | TM Warthog HOTAS | TrackIR 5 | Saitek Pro rudder pedals | Dell 24" LCD @ 1920x1200
JHepburn Posted November 29, 2010 Posted November 29, 2010 I'm using Beta 3, and have been trying it for 5 minutes on super speed (Ctrl-Z a couple times), and haven't crashed yet. Still maintaining 4410 feet, with a bank of about 15 degrees. Good, maybe it was a one time deal for me. Last time I tried the plane would yaw back and forth pretty violently.
kylania Posted November 29, 2010 Posted November 29, 2010 Good, maybe it was a one time deal for me. Last time I tried the plane would yaw back and forth pretty violently. Same here, the AP yaw thing is murder usually. Glad it's not happening, and remember it's not supposed to happen, but just be aware that it can happen. :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Christmas Cheer - A Landing Practice Mission : Beta Paint Schemes : HOTAS Keyboard Map : Bingo Fuel - A DCS A-10C Movie
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