Approach plates

[Fish]

I have seen the nice work which Shu77 has done on the Airfiled plates. :thumbup:

 

Was wondering Is anyone working on approach plates for Georgia Airstrips. Would be nice to have some disciplined approach procedures, especially precision ones where ILS and TACAN is active. Unfortunately I don't have enough expertise in this area, otherwise i'd be glad to help. Just a thought.

 

Cheers.

[timc]

Approach plates and SIDs are available for Batumi, Kutaisi and Tbilisi from EAD Basic. You'll need to register but its free. PAMS light gets you to charts - seach for Georgia and you'll get a number of files.

 

http://www.ead.eurocontrol.int/publicuser/public/pu/login.jsp

[Frederf]

Here are some AIP entries:

http://eurocontrol.gryph.de/airports/UGSB.pdf

http://eurocontrol.gryph.de/airports/UGTB.pdf

http://eurocontrol.gryph.de/airports/UGTB.pdf

http://vatrus.aero/lib/urrv.urka.jeppesen_charts_09.2009.pdf

 

Thing is a lot of these procedures are not possible exactly written in DCS. DCS doesn't have the same navaid service volumes, ILS slopes, navaids, elevations, etc.

[shu77]

See these are why I stopped short of doing approach charts, a lot of detail that even with DCS level of fidelity is still not in game enough to allow you to do something accurately. Still very cool, thanks for the links frederf.

[dooom]

your last link seems dead frederf. Do you have any other Georgian plates? I have russian plates I can trade if you need.

[shu77]

Have a look at the AIP site

http://aviadocs.net/AIP/html/eng.htm

Theres a couple of the fields in there, however you will find most of the military sites are missing and a couple like Sochi are significantly different IRL to In-Game (sochi having bee militarised which makes sense in the context of the game.)

 

Theres also some like Nalchik, which IRL has a rather bright Highway next to it, but In-Game this blends in to the city animations. I left the warnings in my diagrams because I thought it broke up the flow of the diagrams, however its a good example of where a real approach plate is going to let you down and why I stopped at 'ICAO style' charts.

[Fish]

Thanks for the feedback guys. I thought it might be a straight forward job to 'fictionalize' some charts for the game, but there's obviously too large a gap between RL and DCS to make it easy.

 

Interesting stuff though.

Edited January 4, 2011 by Fish

[CrashEd]

Interesting stuff though.

 

Indeed. Cheers for the links to the sites. Very useful for other sims :thumbup:

[shu77]

Ah by all means don't let me discourage you from expanding the product set, I just thought I would throw in my own experience and why I decided to stop where I did. My project started as a method to avoid embarrassing myself by either getting lost on a field or finding myself trying to do a mid field departure with 200ft or runway left in MP.

 

Theres no reason you couldnt set up the approach plates, but without any meaningful feedback from ATC, or 737's to dodge youre just not going to immediately know if youre in the right place.

 

Ideally we will get a new version of LOATC eventually and perhaps be able to tempt some of the IAVO guys to come run ATC on some of the large MP servers :)