Ells228 Posted January 30, 2011 Posted January 30, 2011 The VEAO team would like to announce our next project for 2011 development. The British Aerospace Harrier GR7 We are currently recruiting for help to develop this mod. We are looking for modelers, skinners and coders. If you are interested, please send me an Email at ells@veao.eu Here are some early development screens getting her into LockOn FC2. We hope you are as excited about flying the Harrier in LockOn as we are. Thanks, Ells.
czarnyolek Posted January 31, 2011 Posted January 31, 2011 Model looks great, but i'm flying Harrier in LO FC2 for a long time already ;) Did i say it aloud? :x
Viper101 Posted January 31, 2011 Posted January 31, 2011 Ells, I sure hope you do know that the reason why all your trees and buildings have their tops cut off and your anti-aliasing isn't working is cause you have two or more cdds terrain packs fighting with each other. Best to fully uninstall all terrain enhancements to see if your terrain works again, then only install one. Aside from your installation problem, the model looks good! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Napa Posted January 31, 2011 Posted January 31, 2011 What a/c is she replacing? I would very much like to see her on the Su-25T. It would fit like a glove. Too bad we won't be able to do VTOL. Nevertheless good choice. Intel i7 12700k / Corsair H150i Elite Capellix / Asus TUF Z690 Wifi D4 / Corsair Dominator 32GB 3200Mhz / Corsair HW1000W / 1x Samsung SSD 970 Evo Plus 500Gb + 1 Corsair MP600 1TB / ASUS ROG Strix RTX 3080 OC V2 / Fractal Design Meshify 2 / HOTAS Warthog / TFRP Rudder / TrackIR 5 / Dell U2515h 25" Monitor 1440p
aaron886 Posted January 31, 2011 Posted January 31, 2011 Good start on that model. I think it might be a little bit too thin vertically, however...
Nikeleye Posted January 31, 2011 Posted January 31, 2011 Bare in mind if you're using to seeing the American variant (the AV-8B) that has a Hughes/Raytheon radar in the nosecone and the normal GR.7/9/A doesn't, thus it may look 'thinner' to you. :thumbup:
Ells228 Posted January 31, 2011 Author Posted January 31, 2011 Ells, I sure hope you do know that the reason why all your trees and buildings have their tops cut off and your anti-aliasing isn't working is cause you have two or more cdds terrain packs fighting with each other. Best to fully uninstall all terrain enhancements to see if your terrain works again, then only install one. Aside from your installation problem, the model looks good! Thanks Viper, but I have no terrain packs installed at all? I have a new 460GTX OC card and would appreciate any setting i need to set in Nvidia control panel to enhance FC2?
Ells228 Posted January 31, 2011 Author Posted January 31, 2011 Bare in mind if you're using to seeing the American variant (the AV-8B) that has a Hughes/Raytheon radar in the nosecone and the normal GR.7/9/A doesn't, thus it may look 'thinner' to you. :thumbup: Thanks mate, yep we are working on the British one, not the American one. Hence Virtual European Air Ops :smilewink: hehe Undecided on the overlay at the moment, too early to tell and with a long development time, I'm sure we'll have figured something out with the flight model by then so won't matter what she overlays.
Ells228 Posted January 31, 2011 Author Posted January 31, 2011 What a/c is she replacing? I would very much like to see her on the Su-25T. It would fit like a glove. Too bad we won't be able to do VTOL. Nevertheless good choice. Well we may have a few cards up our sleve on this one, but time will tell. We can certainly do a very short TOL vertically assisted.
Nikeleye Posted January 31, 2011 Posted January 31, 2011 Thanks mate, yep we are working on the British one, not the American one. Hence Virtual European Air Ops :smilewink: hehe Undecided on the overlay at the moment, too early to tell and with a long development time, I'm sure we'll have figured something out with the flight model by then so won't matter what she overlays. I know! I was replying to aaron886. ;)
Ells228 Posted January 31, 2011 Author Posted January 31, 2011 I know! I was replying to aaron886. ;) Yeah sorry mate I quoted the wrong post lol
rattler Posted January 31, 2011 Posted January 31, 2011 hey bud: try using nvidia inspector to set up your card. If you have already, give me a shout tomorrow and I can give you mine. Not for the 460 though but should work all the same. Cheers. Pete
Viper101 Posted January 31, 2011 Posted January 31, 2011 (edited) Thanks Viper, but I have no terrain packs installed at all? Hmm, then I recommend trying to restore your entire Bazar and Config folders from a back up. I had the same problem when I was messing around with the cdds files and had a winter terrain merged with lockon reload terrain. Edited January 31, 2011 by Viper101 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
aaron886 Posted February 1, 2011 Posted February 1, 2011 (edited) Bare in mind if you're using to seeing the American variant (the AV-8B) that has a Hughes/Raytheon radar in the nosecone and the normal GR.7/9/A doesn't, thus it may look 'thinner' to you. :thumbup: I'm quite aware of the difference! I used to be a huge harrier fan and I've seen a fair amount of photos. ;) This still looks like it may have scaling issues in multiple places. To me, the height of intake with respect to canopy seems too short, but that may well be a factor of the intake bypass doors, which are definitely too long (in the Lock On X axis) compared to the real GR.7. (Otherwise, their dimensions seem fine.) It could also be the lack of a transparent canopy throwing me off, although I can just barely see where glass should end and the canopy rail would begin, and it may help. In all, best to see it further down the road I'm sure, but those bypass doors could take an adjustment. I was also noticing the placement of the UHF antenna atop the fuselage, the strange "bulb" shape of the vortex generators atop the wing (which should actually just be little rectangular fins,) and that the wingtips don't "curl" downward enough; on this mesh instead appearing to have equal mass above and below the plane of the wing. There's a couple of little (I think ECS) intakes above and behind the left and right side of the canopy, evident from the front angle, that appear to be missing. See bypass door shape and placement of upper-fuselage aerials here: http://www.military-aircraft.org.uk/jet-fighter-planes/hawker-harrier-gr7.jpg See vortex generators and downward wingtip "curl" here: http://www.456fis.org/The%20Harrier%20Jet/Harrier_gr9_zg502_closeup_arp%5B1%5D.jpg See ECS (?) intakes above and behind either side of the canopy here, from front view: http://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints-depot/modernplanes/modern-ba-bn/bae,mcdonnell-douglass-harrier-gr7-2.png These are pretty silly little picky things, and I don't want to have the wrong impression... I'm just trying to be helpful; I hope that's the result. I certainly know there are limits to detail and frankly to motivation one can spend working on a mesh. I know I've intentionally simplified or found a way around doing parts to models before, and it's just a matter of where you decide to put detail... so consider these as just extra details you could utilize. Either way, that mesh looks beautiful and I can't wait to see it in Fleet Air Arm colors! Bravo Zulu VEAO. :thumbup: I know! I was replying to aaron886. ;) He was just upping the post count. :D jk. Edited February 1, 2011 by aaron886
revalence Posted February 1, 2011 Posted February 1, 2011 Awesome guys! I can see it..... Another step toward a perfect virtual MAKS airshow! -Andrew (Revalence)
Ells228 Posted February 1, 2011 Author Posted February 1, 2011 I'm quite aware of the difference! I used to be a huge harrier fan and I've seen a fair amount of photos. ;) This still looks like it may have scaling issues in multiple places. To me, the height of intake with respect to canopy seems too short, but that may well be a factor of the intake bypass doors, which are definitely too long (in the Lock On X axis) compared to the real GR.7. (Otherwise, their dimensions seem fine.) It could also be the lack of a transparent canopy throwing me off, although I can just barely see where glass should end and the canopy rail would begin, and it may help. In all, best to see it further down the road I'm sure, but those bypass doors could take an adjustment. I was also noticing the placement of the UHF antenna atop the fuselage, the strange "bulb" shape of the vortex generators atop the wing (which should actually just be little rectangular fins,) and that the wingtips don't "curl" downward enough; on this mesh instead appearing to have equal mass above and below the plane of the wing. There's a couple of little (I think ECS) intakes above and behind the left and right side of the canopy, evident from the front angle, that appear to be missing. See bypass door shape and placement of upper-fuselage aerials here: http://www.military-aircraft.org.uk/jet-fighter-planes/hawker-harrier-gr7.jpg See vortex generators and downward wingtip "curl" here: http://www.456fis.org/The%20Harrier%20Jet/Harrier_gr9_zg502_closeup_arp%5B1%5D.jpg See ECS (?) intakes above and behind either side of the canopy here, from front view: http://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints-depot/modernplanes/modern-ba-bn/bae,mcdonnell-douglass-harrier-gr7-2.png These are pretty silly little picky things, and I don't want to have the wrong impression... I'm just trying to be helpful; I hope that's the result. I certainly know there are limits to detail and frankly to motivation one can spend working on a mesh. I know I've intentionally simplified or found a way around doing parts to models before, and it's just a matter of where you decide to put detail... so consider these as just extra details you could utilize. Either way, that mesh looks beautiful and I can't wait to see it in Fleet Air Arm colors! Bravo Zulu VEAO. :thumbup: He was just upping the post count. :D jk. Thanks bud and you know I always appreciate your comments and thanks for the pics, they help a lot. There is a lot of tweaking to be done still as it was modelled for a raytrace render project and not FC2. I did a very basic conversion and mapped everything grey to just show what our next project is. It's been sitting on my hard drive for the past 2 years whilst we worked on the Typhoon and thought it was time to dust her off and give her wings a flap. Gonna be a long development time for this one, Typhoon took 2 years to get to where she is today and we learnt a lot of lessons along the way with great help from TFC/ED (again thanks Jim and the team). Again, thanks for all of your comments, they really do help :thumbup:
wty7314 Posted June 16, 2011 Posted June 16, 2011 Do you have any news for me about this project from your VEAO team? Thanks for your answers. I like harrier jump jet very much and wish it can do vtol in FC2.0.
Ells228 Posted June 16, 2011 Author Posted June 16, 2011 Hey, Well short answer is, this is on hold at the moment. There is no feasible way to do vtol in FC2. At the moment we are concentrating on the Typhoon projects but I'll pist up any news about the Harrier when we pick it up again. Thanks, Chris.
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